Farm Attacks

And don't forget the Naauwhoek Farm massacre.
http://www.volkstaat.net/index.php?...:white-genocide-in-southern-africa&Itemid=184

The White Genocide in southern Africa continues unabated. Below one of the last cases: the Naauwhoek Farm massacre.

Deon Steenkamp (44 y.o), a white farmer, his wife Christelle (43 y.o.) and 14-year-old daughter Marthella were killed on a farm near Griekwastad (in the northern Cape between Kimberley and Upington) on Friday, April 6, 2012. The bodies were found at Naauwhoek Farm at around 18:00. The victims were all shot, and were discovered by the couple's 16-year-old son Don. Don found his sister still alive and that she died in his arms.
 
This is exactly why I intended to post articles rather than my opinion. To answer you, I did highlight the fact that black and white farmers, as well as their workers are victims.


Uhmm.. sure.. in which post exactly?
 
Using a news comment sections as a yard stick on normal mentality is your first mistake.

Social media can give quite a good view because people speak their minds. But I'm not going to get into an argument about race relations because everyone knows they are strained in this country.

I do find it odd that you look for fault with the victims instead of the attackers.
 
Social media can give quite a good view because people speak their minds. But I'm not going to get into an argument about race relations because everyone knows they are strained in this country.

I do find it odd that you look for fault with the victims instead of the attackers.

I look for mitigating circumstances to the reason for the headline, I don't think the victim deserved any of it whether he made the remark or didn't. The consequences could of been different of course. What is worrying though is there are now more illegal firearms out there, the common factor around almost all of the farm murders are guns - money - electronics - vehicles, not necessarily in that order.
 
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Post 23 is an old quote from an external source. It is by no means you, yourself, highlighting


"Shift the burden"? I suggest you shoulder your burden. It seems pretty clear what your agenda is here.

I meant physically highlighting the section regarding black and white murders.

I suggest you stop stereotyping and assuming.
 
[ OLD - 2003 ]

HRC: Farm attacks criminal, not political

July 28 2003 at 01:58pm
By Edwin Naidu
A two-year investigation by the Human Rights Commission into farm killings and the poor treatment of farmworkers has found that there was no political motive behind the attacks on farmers.

The attacks, which saw hundreds of farmers killed throughout the country over the past three years, were criminally motivated, according to the human rights body's findings.

On average between 140 and 145 farmers had been killed annually since 1997.

Charlotte McClain, the human rights commissioner who presided over the inquiry, said the commission received submissions on the possible causes of the farm killings during hearings held around the country last year.

"But almost all the ones I heard did not support the perception that these were political - the violations against farmers were criminally motivated," she said.

It was widely claimed ahead of the inquiry - launched in May 2001 - that the police and other criminal justice organs were collaborating with perpetrators of human rights violations. Some farming bodies also claimed that political parties were behind the widespread killings on farms.

The South African Agricultural Union indicated that 2 730 attacks were carried out on farms between 1992 and 1997, and 464 farmers had been murdered between 1994 and 1998.

The probe by the human rights body supports the finding of a preliminary report made in a separate inquiry launched by the late safety and security minister Steve Tshwete in 2001 under advocate Charl du Plessis.

Du Plessis confirmed on Sunday that his 500-page report would be handed over to Safety and Security Minister Charles Nqakula on Thursday.

Nqakula told parliament last month that, according to an interim report submitted to him, the inquiry found no political motives behind the killings and that the overwhelming evidence pointed to crime being the major reason for farm attacks.

Cobus Visser, spokesperson for farmers' union AgriSA, said the organisation was keen to establish whether the human rights body had investigated the impact of the slogan "Kill the boer, Kill the farmer" on the attacks.

"They claim there was no political motive behind the killings, but this was a political slogan, which the commission ruled as unacceptable hate speech and which contributed directly to the attacks," he said.

Chris van Zyl, head of rural safety for the Transvaal Agricultural Union of South Africa, believes the high level of violent attacks, where victims were shot in the knees or had other gruesome acts carried out on them, and then had nothing stolen from their farms, indicated motives that were not entirely clear.
 
I look for mitigating circumstances to the reason for the headline, I don't think the victim deserved any of it whether he made the remark or didn't. The consequences could of been different of course. What is sad though is there are now more illegal firearms out there, the common factor around almost all of the farm murders are guns - money - electronics - vehicles, not necessarily in that order.

Farmers are seen as soft targets and there is often extremely excessive violence which means robbery isn't the only motive.

It might be what starts the process but once victims are subdued the need to kill/rape/terrorise often takes over. That is the main problem for me.

Disarming farmers will do nothing as there will always be the belief that there are lots of goodies to be had by attacking a farm.
 
That is an ad hominem?

I do not think you know the meaning.

And besides, your agenda is obvious... and, both old and tired.
 
Or I could argue against.... what?

You have not been brave enough to venture an opinon. Quoting old news stories leaves us no avenue but to infer your motives for the thread.

I have nothing with which to debate. Therefore I question your motive.
 
In my opinion you resorted to 'to the man' reasoning, avoiding the topic and train of thought. But I will let you have the last say and ignore you henceforth.
An ad hominem argument is when someone attacks your character, rather than your posts. scudsucker said your post was mostly inaccurate, except for one thing, so that is not an ad hominem argument. If he had said that you are an idiot or a troll or that you never say anything of value or something like that, then that would be ad hominem
 
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