Farm Attacks

rambo919 said:
All crime is not the same, the motivations are not the same. It's a pretty terrible thief that gets so carried away with the fun of boiling babies alive that he forgets to even steal anything.
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But this is what I'm trying to establish. How many farm attacks involve this type of cruelty? Are farm attacks increasing, decreasing or staying more or less constant. Is the violence around these attacks getting more pronounced?

These threads always deteriorate into rhetoric rather than actual facts, and yes I know I can be guilty of that sometimes too.
 
The Voice said:
Ok, so if brutality is linked to time available to the criminal, and not the race of the victim, let's look at your township example, and compare apples with apples: are the victims in township murders also tortured? Unlike CIT attacks, I imagine there is a LOT more time available to an intruder once inside a township dwelling.
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I'm sure they sometimes are. We frequently read of horrible stuff in the press.
 
vigras rojara said:
But this is what I'm trying to establish. How many farm attacks involve this type of cruelty? Are farm attacks increasing, decreasing or staying more or less constant. Is the violence around these attacks getting more pronounced?

These threads always deteriorate into rhetoric rather than actual facts, and yes I know I can be guilty of that sometimes too.
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Are these rhetoric questions are are you genuinely so uninformed? If the latter, please refrain from further commenting on something you have no idea about. You are clearly trying to downplay these attacks, and for what reason?
 
thechamp said:
Truth be told I would also use hanged if I felt that there's a risk that being tied to a pole does not sound genocide enough.
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Have the journalists on your insistence followed up with your claimed mandate that they should find the traumatized mothers of child rape victims who are hiding in safe houses to question them despite having court orders preventing the rapists relatives from going near them.
 
vigras rojara said:
But this is what I'm trying to establish. How many farm attacks involve this type of cruelty? Are farm attacks increasing, decreasing or staying more or less constant. Is the violence around these attacks getting more pronounced?

These threads always deteriorate into rhetoric rather than actual facts, and yes I know I can be guilty of that sometimes too.
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Farm attacks have seen a drastic increase.

There has been a spike in farm attacks, according to the South African Police Service (Saps).

Saps statistics indicate that there were 80 attacks between January and March 2020 with 48 attacks reported between April and June this year.

There were six farm attacks during January and March 2019 and seven between April and June 2019.
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www.capetalk.co.za

Farm attacks and murders are undeniably spiking – Saps data

"People are being murdered [on farms] whether they are black, white, coloured or Indian," says Dr Ivan Meyer (W Cape Government).
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vigras rojara said:
But this is what I'm trying to establish. How many farm attacks involve this type of cruelty? Are farm attacks increasing, decreasing or staying more or less constant. Is the violence around these attacks getting more pronounced?

These threads always deteriorate into rhetoric rather than actual facts, and yes I know I can be guilty of that sometimes too.
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The prevailing pattern is this: intelligence gathering and intimidation of employees, planning (these are not opportunistic attacks), attempt, depending on the success level of the attempt they gain an amount of time to do it, the length of time determines how much gets done, if they have a week they will stay and torture for a week or untill all victims expire.

Americans make bad horror movies over home invasions thinking that nothing like it can actually happen, in SA this is a reality only it gets planned beforehand by organized gangs.

The only attacks that do not deteriorate into torture are the one's that are either unsuccessful or are cut short. This happens in urban area's too but time gained is always shorter so the torture is less. Almost never are anything stolen that is not stolen as an afterthought, the torture itself is the goal.

It started with anti-white hatred but has actually deteriorated into class warfare with farmers of all races (and their farmworker "class accomplices" as secondary targets) being equally targeted and yes it is time to stop focusing on whites too much.... the game has changed and you do not need to be white to be a kulak.

EDIT: for the sake of revolutionary rhetoric you will find that whites are always called capitalists and it is emphasized that capitalism is the great enemy of the revolution.
 
thechamp said:
Truth be told I would also use hanged if I felt that there's a risk that being tied to a pole does not sound genocide enough.
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Who is talking about genocide?

I see. You are one of those ones who will down play the severity of what happened because you want to undercut the "genocide" narrative. People like you are all over Twitter.
 
Emjay said:
Who is talking about genocide?

I see. You are one of those ones who will down play the severity of what happened because you want to undercut the "genocide" narrative. People like you are all over Twitter.
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Truth is as tragic as it is there's nothing special about this murder In the greater scheme of crime in South Africa, I don't know if that feels like downplaying it to you.
 
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Emjay said:
Torturing a guy while he is tied to a pole is run of the mill crime?
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I think it's gruesome, feel free to add other horrifying English words you can think of, but I also don't think there's anything that makes it exceptional compared to other similarly gruesome murders out there.

Unless being white and a farmer makes it somehow different.
 
itsme2 said:
Are these rhetoric questions are are you genuinely so uninformed? If the latter, please refrain from further commenting on something you have no idea about. You are clearly trying to downplay these attacks, and for what reason?
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Ok, so more rhetoric and no facts then.
 
https://www.news24.com/news24/south...pe-your-kids-9-attackers-tell-farmer-20201005

And we have another one! But no, let's downplay this, all thieves threaten to rape children. Why, what for? Everything they want to take is right there, it's not like the guy has a hidden safe in a bunker somewhere on the farm or hiding state secrets that they need to torture out of him.

A hungry thief will get in and out asap, tie up his victims and leave. But not these lot, no they have to physically and psychologically torture people, why? Because they like it, they revel in the barbirism that is almost ingrained now. And they do it, because there's nothing going to be done about it. Prison isn't a deterrent, they laugh at the idea knowing full well that they will either sit comfy somewhere in a jail cell while the rest of their friends continue to mame, torture and kill or they will get out in a couple of years, or even less when they escape out of the court room.

Like I said, only deterrent is to shoot the ****ers as soon as they step foot on your property, eventually they'll get the idea.
 
thechamp said:
I think it's gruesome, feel free to add other horrifying English words you can think of, but I also don't think there's anything that makes it exceptional compared to other similarly gruesome murders out there.

Unless being white and a farmer makes it somehow different.
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Except as has been pointed out, it's become a class warfare problem not just a race one. All farmers are now targets regardless of their race.
 
rambo919 said:
Except as has been pointed out, it's become a class warfare problem not just a race one. All farmers are now targets regardless of their race.
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I think you're right, but you are about to be called a libtard by the genocide crowd.
 
@vigras rojara @thechamp and the rest ..... read this:
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