Farmer 'sabotaged' road

Redeemed said:
Hahaha, you are sounding very much like those people who were always cowering from the Swart Gevaar pre-94.
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So crime is not an issue in our country?
Not everybody retaliate in a barbaric way. Some dig a trench. I prefer people who dig trenches to people who randomly kill old people because they were once fired by a white guy they stole from.
 
Redeemed said:
Hahaha, you are sounding very much like those people who were always cowering from the Swart Gevaar pre-94.
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Perhaps ask the victims of farm attacks how they feel about what you wrote oh wait they are all dead, what like 3000 or 2000? Kids too were tortured. Ahhh yes I forgot the farm attacks are just random crimes by poor whites. How silly of me
 
Mila said:
So crime is not an issue in our country?
Not everybody retaliate in a barbaric way. Some dig a trench. I prefer people who dig trenches to people who randomly kill old people because they were once fired by a white guy they stole from.
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He never denied crime, but the fear of the swaat gevaar is evident in many BB posters. intel8080 springs to mind and he claims he isnt a saffer
You're quite flippant with regard to retaliation by aggreived farmworkers. Now, im not condoning their actions in any way, shape or form lest wannabemarine1 accuses me of siding with criminals, but there's a helluva lot of injustice going on in our rural farmlands.
Digging a trench is hardly the solution ;) One could say its an almost apartheid like solution
 
wikk3d88 said:
He never denied crime, but the fear of the swaat gevaar is evident in many BB posters. intel8080 springs to mind and he claims he isnt a saffer
You're quite flippant with regard to retaliation by aggreived farmworkers. Now, im not condoning their actions in any way, shape or form lest wannabemarine1 accuses me of siding with criminals, but there's a helluva lot of injustice going on in our rural farmlands.
Digging a trench is hardly the solution ;) One could say its an almost apartheid like solution
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Like I said if its for livestock theft it is quiet an ingenious idea, and no it's not apartheid as many of the people were on the same side as the farmer ;) and if a trench is apartheid is a fence one? what about the N1 sabotaging the people to get to the otherside in centurion? and rhe R21? yes there is many injustices, but not the kind you are hinting at. Not many reports of farm workers chained to equipment and beaten to work.

http://www.farmersweekly.co.za/article.aspx?id=25053&h=Fighting-stock-theft
http://www.timeslive.co.za/thetimes/2013/03/11/stock-theft-led-to-killings

He could have killed them. A trench is a great solution, just like a fence.

You ate today? Thank a farmer.
 
Mila said:
Like I said if its for livestock theft it is quiet an ingenious idea, and no it's not apartheid as many of the people were on the same side as the farmer ;) and if a trench is apartheid is a fence one? what about the N1 sabotaging the people to get to the otherside in centurion? and rhe R21? yes there is many injustices, but not the kind you are hinting at. Not many reports of farm workers chained to equipment and beaten to work.

http://www.farmersweekly.co.za/article.aspx?id=25053&h=Fighting-stock-theft
http://www.timeslive.co.za/thetimes/2013/03/11/stock-theft-led-to-killings

He could have killed them. A trench is a great solution, just like a fence.

You ate today? Thank a farmer.
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You mean milk doesn't come from the magic fridge in the shops? Boo Hiss!
 
wikk3d88 said:
You mean milk doesn't come from the magic fridge in the shops? Boo Hiss!
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My meat only comes from a package in the shop, it has nothing to do with the big eyed cows in fields or frolicking lambs... :D milk? It comes from the magical clover factory! Pfft
[video]http://vimeo.com/shythesun/clover-way-better[/video]
 
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Sorry, can somebody post the link where the farmer said it was because of livestock theft? Isn't that usually the neighboring farms doing?
 
Mila said:
My meat only comes from a package in the shop, it has nothing to do with the big eyed cows in fields or frolicking lambs... :D milk? It comes from the magical clover factory! Pfft
[video]http://vimeo.com/shythesun/clover-way-better[/video]
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cute-lamb.jpeg

omnomnomnomnom
 
Fudzy said:
Sorry, can somebody post the link where the farmer said it was because of livestock theft? Isn't that usually the neighboring farms doing?
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You'll find that besides normal commercial farmers, many africans in rural KZN keep their own livestock. More often than not theft does occur (between these informal farmers, between them and commercial farmers etc)Also quite a bit of cross border livestock theft. different reasons why, more often than not for monetary gain.
http://mercury.ethz.ch/serviceengin...7d-988b-48f1-ac8b-5bf5c2d5d242/en/120FULL.pdf

an interesting link

http://agriculture.kzntl.gov.za/publications/speeches/2000/speech_4_9.htm

Old but points there are still relevant
 
Fudzy said:
Sorry, can somebody post the link where the farmer said it was because of livestock theft? Isn't that usually the neighboring farms doing?
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Nobody said it was. And no. Your livestock is branded so stealing your neighbors livestock would be stupid.

Redeemed said farm murders were retaliation, I said a trench could also be a form of retaliation. As livestock theft is a big threat to food security.

Livestock thieves come in with trucks and load livestock. A trench would be a great solution.

Why does it seems so unlikely? You reduce the entry points into a farm.
 
Mila said:
Nobody said it was. And no. Your livestock is branded so stealing your neighbors livestock would be stupid.

Redeemed said farm murders were retaliation, I said a trench could also be a form of retaliation. As livestock theft is a big threat to food security.

Livestock thieves come in with trucks and load livestock. A trench would be a great solution.

Why does it seems so unlikely? You reduce the entry points into a farm.
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Okay, so it was hypothetical. Good strategy but if this was the case but I think it comes down to the farmer not wanting the villagers there, hence the alleged previous arson attack.
 
Fudzy said:
Okay, so it was hypothetical. Good strategy but if this was the case but I think it comes down to the farmer not wanting the villagers there, hence the alleged previous arson attack.
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Also hypothetical but plausible. Farmers have to burn their fields so it could also be squatters being hysterical. Much like the squatters on Hans Strijdom ( PTA) and the squatters in cape town, they were asked to move to enable these fields to be burned to prevent a disaster later on when the fire started they cried sabotage, it was established they caused their own arson.

This is a case of a one sided story, the farmer might be of his rocker, the facts has not been established. The most important question is, was the farmer allowed to dig the trench? If not he should be sued and made to repair the road. If not the community should come together and bring a solution to the table that benefit both parties. I do understand that the community sometimes turn a blind eye to crime in fear of being targeted. But they should try to get to a solution.
 
Mila said:
So crime is not an issue in our country?
Not everybody retaliate in a barbaric way. Some dig a trench. I prefer people who dig trenches to people who randomly kill old people because they were once fired by a white guy they stole from.
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What retaliation? What threat do little children going to school pose to him? I think he is just being spiteful given his previous aggression of burning the poor villagers' houses.
 
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Mila said:
My meat only comes from a package in the shop, it has nothing to do with the big eyed cows in fields or frolicking lambs... :D milk? It comes from the magical clover factory! Pfft
[video]http://vimeo.com/shythesun/clover-way-better[/video]
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:D
 
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