Fiber installation (custom location) possible?

Also, if your flat is newly built with fibre installation planned for, there may be a existing point in the flat they would install to already and you would be out of luck..
 
Mmm, Thanks for that @AfriNatic that kind of makes sense - if there is no duct then there is no duct.

Perhaps a follow-up question, I am getting an electrician to come and pull neutral wires to all the plugs, perhaps if I buy fiber cable I can lay some so long and then they just patch it to their cable? Is this possible? Ie I get the electrician to do what is needed to get the fiber from the cupboard to the kitchen for example (there is no termination box visible in the flat, I checked everywhere, no prior ADSL installed or anything)
 
It's far better to have the ONT installed as close as possible to the entry point of your flat, and then run a network cable from the ONT to your router which can be wherever you want it to be. Ethernet cable is far more forgiving than fibre is when it comes to twists and turns and tricky corners.
 
deweyzeph said:
It's far better to have the ONT installed as close as possible to the entry point of your flat, and then run a network cable from the ONT to your router which can be wherever you want it to be. Ethernet cable is far more forgiving than fibre is when it comes to twists and turns and tricky corners.
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I understand that, but I don't want the fiber boxes in the living room again it breaks the aesthetic.
 
deweyzeph said:
It's far better to have the ONT installed as close as possible to the entry point of your flat, and then run a network cable from the ONT to your router which can be wherever you want it to be. Ethernet cable is far more forgiving than fibre is when it comes to twists and turns and tricky corners.
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They had to rerun the 40 or 50 meter cable in my flat, after it was already hot glued in place, cause one of the guys kinked it somewhere outside..
 
Is there a way to get a blueprint of where the wires are currently running? (what would that be called?) sectional title unit
 
Thor said:
There is a light in the study (ie a ceiling light) I wonder if they can run it from wherever they enter the flat to some plug and then get to the light and then just from there run to the cupboard?

I am probably missing the plot entirely, as I have no idea how the wiring in a flat works (where the existing conduits are and are not) and what is and is not possible
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The conduits are laid during construction.
If u open the main box which is usually near the main door u will see conduits that go to different rooms in the flat.
Usually the conduits are run along walls and the concealed with plaster.
The plan of the flat should give u more details.
The way I figured out the wiring in my flat was I opened up all the sockets and used the below cable puller. U just push them in at one end of the conduit and see where it comes out.

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deweyzeph said:
It's far better to have the ONT installed as close as possible to the entry point of your flat, and then run a network cable from the ONT to your router which can be wherever you want it to be. Ethernet cable is far more forgiving than fibre is when it comes to twists and turns and tricky corners.
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I agree with this. Just run a ethernet cable through the conduits.
Not sure of u get "pullable" fiber cable cables for such use.
 
WAslayer said:
The electrical wiring for your lights and plugs..?
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Yea, basically to understand what the wiring possibilities are like as I'd also like to run Ethernet to the TV and rooms possibly via the electrical outlets in each room (just a thought)
 
joker08 said:
The conduits are laid during construction.
If u open the main box which is usually near the main door u will see conduits that go to different rooms in the flat.
Usually the conduits are run along walls and the concealed with plaster.
The plan of the flat should give u more details.
The way I figured out the wiring in my flat was I opened up all the sockets and used the below cable puller. U just push them in at one end of the conduit and see where it comes out.

www.bidorbuy.co.za

3.6mm Blue Electrician Conduit Wire Cable Puller Ducting with Wheel 1... (COLOR: SILVER | SIZE: 10M) | bidorbuy.co.za

Buy 3.6mm Blue Electrician Conduit Wire Cable Puller Ducting with Wheel 1... (COLOR: SILVER | SIZE: 10M) for R399.63
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Thanks for that -- I am ordering one now
 
Thor said:
Yea, basically to understand what the wiring possibilities are like as I'd also like to run Ethernet to the TV and rooms possibly via the electrical outlets in each room (just a thought)
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According to regulations, you are not allowed to run anything other than electrical wiring in a conduit with pre-existing electrical wiring.. the electrician I had out to install my extractor fan and heater combo also refused to run the wiring for the headlamps in the same conduit as the wiring for the lights, for this reason.. I have to have an additional conduit chased into the wall just to get the wiring done for the heatlamps..

Moreover, depending on how well occupied your existing conduits are, you may not have space for additional wiring and running something like a cable pusher up into it, can scratch off the insulation and cause a short.. they have metal tips and this is exactly what happened in my case while the electrician was pulling the extra cable through.. had to pull out the now exposed cable and replace it..
 
WAslayer said:
According to regulations, you are not allowed to run anything other than electrical wiring in a conduit with pre-existing electrical wiring.. the electrician I had out to install my extractor fan and heater combo also refused to run the wiring for the headlamps in the same conduit as the wiring for the lights, for this reason.. I have to have an additional conduit chased into the wall just to get the wiring done for the heatlamps..

Moreover, depending on how well occupied your existing conduits are, you may not have space for additional wiring and running something like a cable pusher up into it, can scratch off the insulation and cause a short.. they have metal tips and this is exactly what happened in my case while the electrician was pulling the extra cable through.. had to pull out the now exposed cable and replace it..
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It's a bad idea anyway to run ethernet cabling in the same conduit as electricity wiring, just purely from an interference point of view.
 
ld13 said:
They asked. I pointed. They installed. No issues - was well within the 30m allotted to me though. They reported that they used 30m of fibre - I suspect this was a lie, in order to get the 'maximum' from the install.
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They did the same with my installation and left the slack in the ceiling. I prefer this because I can move it to a different spot if needed later on.

It's not like they were going to give me a rebate for using less than 30m.
 
deweyzeph said:
It's a bad idea anyway to run ethernet cabling in the same conduit as electricity wiring, just purely from an interference point of view.
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Was going to insolate the live out of it, but I did not realize its not allowed in the building code, oh well guess the fiber will have to go where it goes then.
 
sgs said:
The installers have pre-terminated cable lengths. So if e.g. 20m is too short, and 30m too long, they'll use 30m and coil the excess somewhere. I have a nice coil of fibre on my ceiling as a result. (Guess it will also depend what they have on hand on the day?)
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I have been at 3 installs so far and in each case they had a big roll, and simply cut from that - improbable that it was a fixed 20/30m piece, looked more like a 100m roll?

chickenbeef said:
They did the same with my installation and left the slack in the ceiling. I prefer this because I can move it to a different spot if needed later on.
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They used an existing conduit and it enters the house from the side, with no place for any slack/leftover.
 
Was about to ask as well lol.

Since I have quite a bit of a home network (2x LTE routers -> load balancer -> 4x ethernet cables running to different rooms, each with their own routers. All routers and load balancer hooked up to inverter to stay on during loadshedding.

I suppose once I get fibre, I guess it would be, ONT -> load balancer -> routers. Or am I missing something?

But yeah, I suppose it would be great if they install to where my LTE routers currently is.
 
Not sure if this file attachment will work, let me try.

Attached is an image to illustrate (with the red wire) how I think I would like to route the fiber so that all the wires (switches etc) end up in the cupboard - I do not want the router to be sitting on the kitchen corner.

I will drill the hole through the wall to connect the room and I will drill the hole through the cupboard.
 

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