Finally someone asks Israel the difficult question

Therooster said:
Ha ha. That's a low blow. But you seem to be allocating Israelis with some kind of superiority to the palestinians. What is this special thing that makes them superior ?
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No where did I mention religion or stereotypes, or race, you have a twisted sense of things, maybe its from your own feeling of inferiority of some sort?

The way the Israelis would work imho, would be instead of squandering millions and millions on weapons smuggling and manufacturing of missiles, they would probably be spending the resources on infrastructure and what not.

The Palis are quite capable of doing the same, Ramallah in the West Bank is currently thriving, unfortunately it suits Hamas to keep the population of Gaza in squalid conditions, it keeps the hatred alive - content people don't feel the need to fight and hate so much.
 
za1 said:
No where did I mention religion or stereotypes, or race, you have a twisted sense of things, maybe its from your own feeling of inferiority of some sort?

The way the Israelis would work imho, would be instead of squandering millions and millions on weapons smuggling and manufacturing of missiles, they would probably be spending the resources on infrastructure and what not.

The Palis are quite capable of doing the same, Ramallah in the West Bank is currently thriving, unfortunately it suits Hamas to keep the population of Gaza in squalid conditions, it keeps the hatred alive - content people don't feel the need to fight and hate so much.
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You've so much admiration for the Israeli's. You should start a "Go Israel" club. It's not like they've played any part in the squalor and death in the region. Not saintly god chosen Israeli's ! They're incapable of wrong.
 
Therooster said:
You've so much admiration for the Israeli's. You should start a "Go Israel" club. It's not like they've played any part in the squalor and death in the region. Not saintly god chosen Israeli's ! They're incapable of wrong.
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** yawn **

you don't have much to contribute to a discussion besides sarcastic remarks and hatred?

The thread is what Israel would do if the roles were reversed, I gave my opinion, fine, so you disagree, so move on now.
 
za1 said:
** yawn **

you don't have much to contribute to a discussion besides sarcastic remarks and hatred?

The thread is what Israel would do if the roles were reversed, I gave my opinion, fine, so you disagree, so move on now.
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If the roles were reversed Israel would react exactly the same way. I gave my opinion as how to stop the conflict and was greeted with nothing but sarcastic remarks. Sometimes the best way to stop someone's idiot behaviour is to throw up a mirror.
 
Therooster said:
The U.A.E is pretty nice.
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The UAE is not an Islamic State in the sense of the radicals concerned. You do know that those guys in charge of Saudi Arabia, Oman, UAE, Kuwait etc would be the first to go if the radicals got in power?
 
Said it before, lets ban/remove all forms of religion for a 200 year period and then see what happens. Knock down all churches, temples and other places of worship, take all religious books out of circulation and store them away. Remove all reference to religion from all societies. The start the clock and see how well we get on with each other.
 
Balstrome said:
Said it before, lets ban/remove all forms of religion for a 200 year period and then see what happens. Knock down all churches, temples and other places of worship, take all religious books out of circulation and store them away. Remove all reference to religion from all societies. The start the clock and see how well we get on with each other.
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takes care of 1 problem. however that will not still the fires of conquest completely not to mention that mammon will still contribute to the furnace's fuel.


apogeeza said:
Personally I think both the Jews and the Muslims need to learn this lesson: You can live together in peace.
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few problems

money to be made
foreign 'interest'
religion
 
Balstrome said:
Said it before, lets ban/remove all forms of religion for a 200 year period and then see what happens. Knock down all churches, temples and other places of worship, take all religious books out of circulation and store them away. Remove all reference to religion from all societies. The start the clock and see how well we get on with each other.
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I'm afraid you'd be in for an unpleasant surprise. :erm:
 
za1 said:
If the roles were reversed and it was the Israelis in Gaza, then Gaza would by now be the Monaco of the Middle East.
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And Israel would be a land of sand dunes and goats.
 
What Israeli's are VERY quick to forget is that prior to the Zionist movement spreading like a plaque, much like alquida is now, the only place in the entire world that they could seek refuge in was Arab countries.. then they sought to change this, become master and take over Palestine and when ww1 & 2 came round everyone was gatvol of them even some of the Arabs.

There will never ever be peace in the region while the Zionist movement exists. period. Its funny because when ask some Israeli supporter then they'd say they willing to let go parts of it and use Gaza as an example of this. LOL uhm.. the west bank doesn't legally belong to Israel at all and Gaza i'd love to hear a jew tell me Jerusalem is unimportant as Gaza strip.. if they Israeli's move out there, which is about as likely as bafana bafana winning the world cup [-]next[/-] this yr, then only it will change the minds of many.. but right now what's happening? they taking over inch by inch(illegally) and then claiming they 'peaceful' and not inciting.. LOL.


Other funny fact.. what's an muslim person?? 90% of the usual antagonists on this forum will point to the radicals, ask them about jews and they will point to a mother teresa/ghani type. wtf?

So yah.. this question was answered long ago, the [-]jews[/-] Zionists have screwed over the jewish name and what's left is growing amount of people who won't stand for it any more across multi cultures, regions and religions. I guess this is why for 5k yrs post the joining of they tribes they never re-united(not that European Zionists are even direct descendants even)
 
krycor said:
There will never ever be peace in the region while the Zionist movement exists.
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The converse is thus also true that there will never be peace in the region while extreme Islam exists. By what logic do you arrive at the solution that Zionists are the problem?

Interestingly enough I once worked with a Palestinian Engineer whose home was Jerusalem. I asked him how things were over there because of all the stuff you see on the news etc. He said he has neighbours that are Christians and Jews and they all get along just fine. The trouble starts when politicians and the power hungry get involved and stir up the emotions of the gullible and disaffected.

Bottom line is the average man is quite happy to live in a multi-cultural, mixed religion, multi-national mix.
 
Zionist = anyone that doesn't support the Islamists quest to destroy Israel.
 
You said it.

As it was said above the way Zionism like terrorism spreads is by garnering support from the ignorant and uneducated, if the hat fits .....
 
assassin said:
You said it.

As it was said above the way Zionism like terrorism spreads is by garnering support from the ignorant and uneducated, if the hat fits .....
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Quite the opposite!
The countries you'd label "Zionist" are wealthy and well educated, which cant be said about the Islamic states that don't have the luxury of "petro dollars" .
 
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