Finding the right GPS

Im thinking of buying the Tomtom XL Classic. Can anyone give me feedback on this GPS?

Had mine for a month and love it. They are on special at HiFi / Game right now. The wide screen makes a massive difference.

Would say that the Garmin is also an excellent choice but if your on a budget then the TomTom would be the current best buy.:D
 
I disagree quite strongly with some of the comments - a dedicated GPS for the car (with touch screen and voice prompts) is far better than any general purpose GPS. Some cellphone GPSes may work, but always have some serious shortcomings, e.g. small screen, difficult address entry, no hands free profile (Omnia!!). A GPS for hiking and cycling will not work well in a car for the same reasons. A car GPS will not work for cycling and hiking because of limited battery life (ideally have exchangeable batteries). So while a cell phone or general purpose GPS will get you started, a dedicated GPS, or really good multipurpose design (e.q. Garmin Colorado, Oregon) will give you better results.
 
The Garmin map updates have become affordable (around R150 if you upgrade from the same set year to year, or every second year) and the Avnic service is very good in my experience. So not R1000 for updates; you can lisence a new map set for around R1000.
 
There is absolutely no difference between a point and shoot camera and the camera on a cellphone. That would be a more valid comparison! By comparing a Canon DSLR you are no longer comparing apples with apples. .

There is a difference.
Aperture size for one. Ask any professional Photographer.
How big is the lens on a Cell Phone camera compared to a point and shoot and then a DSLR camera?
I feel that I am comparing apples with apples : The best Digital camera / Dedicated GPS compared to the scaled down versions found on the best cell phones.

Cell phone GPS's have their place - but they will never be as accurate or as versatile as a dedicated GPS.
 
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I disagree quite strongly with some of the comments - a dedicated GPS for the car (with touch screen and voice prompts) is far better than any general purpose GPS. Some cellphone GPSes may work, but always have some serious shortcomings, e.g. small screen, difficult address entry, no hands free profile (Omnia!!). A GPS for hiking and cycling will not work well in a car for the same reasons. A car GPS will not work for cycling and hiking because of limited battery life (ideally have exchangeable batteries). So while a cell phone or general purpose GPS will get you started, a dedicated GPS, or really good multipurpose design (e.q. Garmin Colorado, Oregon) will give you better results.

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Using TomTom 630 very nice unit and the screen mount is excellent
Had TomTom XL Classic for a couple of years before that.
Only complaint is poor battery life
Tried using Voda GPS on my BB Bold but takes too long...
 
I disagree quite strongly with some of the comments - a dedicated GPS for the car (with touch screen and voice prompts) is far better than any general purpose GPS. Some cellphone GPSes may work, but always have some serious shortcomings, e.g. small screen, difficult address entry, no hands free profile (Omnia!!). A GPS for hiking and cycling will not work well in a car for the same reasons. A car GPS will not work for cycling and hiking because of limited battery life (ideally have exchangeable batteries). So while a cell phone or general purpose GPS will get you started, a dedicated GPS, or really good multipurpose design (e.q. Garmin Colorado, Oregon) will give you better results.

The problem is often on these forums someone explicitly says that they just want a GPS to find the odd street address and they have no need for it to climb Mt Everest etc and every time hardcore GPS users state that they should get a dedicated GPS device! The person wanting a GPS is probably on the market for a phone some time soon anyway (everyone is every two years) so why not get a phone with a GPS without being put off by inaccurate comments and articles like the one this thread is about - but i'll get back to that. This way they can see how much use they get out of it, what it's limitations are and then not be stuck with an expensive pretty, but useless, decoration in their cars in the form of a shiny dedicated GPS. They'll have a new phone and can replace it again in another two years.

I also question whether the people who say you need a dedicated GPS have ever actually used both extensively? I have had numerous business trips to Joburg where a dedicated GPS was a necessary addition to my rental car prior to the acquisition of my N82. I have therefore used both and cannot see the big fuss being made over one or the other.

Screen size? I am more than capable of seeing the directions on my N82, and it definitely doesn't have the biggest cellphone screen. Besides that, a voice tells you were to go. The odd glance at the screen is all that is necessary every so often!

Hands free? Why? Once I have entered the desired address into my phone or GPS I should have no need to touch the device again until I reach my destination!

Difficult address entry? Huh? Why? I type long smses on my phone daily. I am probably far more efficient at typing on it than I am on a GPS device!

Back to the inaccuracies in the article now. Well more half truths than inaccuracies. I got my N82 with a year, or two I can't really remember now, of voice navigation included. Further to this even with the slightest bit of tech knowledge, which most users of this forum appear to have, you can get Garmin XT etc on your phone with very little difficulty. Yes, the articles probably only discuss out of the box features but again someone reading it then only sees the apparent limitations of the phone option but not the possibilities.

I still argue, and yes Johnit does end by saying this, that the cellphone GPS is perfect for someone who is not a hardcore hiker, mountain climber or courier driver! Most people will probably find it more than adequate for their needs.
 
Cell phone GPS's have their place - but they will never be as accurate or as versatile as a dedicated GPS.

Again I fear you are talking about off road use etc. My cellphone GPS locks me to the road anyway so it need never be any more accurate than 20 metres (which it is!). Remember I do geocaching with my cellphone. We have get togethers and I am as likely to end up directly on precisely measured co-ordinates than anyone else with their expensive hand held devices.

As regards the camera aperture, again it still depends on what you are comparing! Just a quick google search showed me that a number of digital cameras have the exact same lens aperture as my Nokia N82 (Carl Zeiss Tessar F2.8-5.6) :

Canon PowerShot SD880 IS Digital Camera
Sony CyberShot DSC-W300 Digital Camera
Casio Exilim EX-Z1200 Digital Camera
Nikon CoolPix S710 Digital Camera
 
TomTom on a TYTN2 works pretty good... Just need to find the right spot in the car so it doesnt loose signal sometimes...
 
I use TomTom on my SE X1 and it works perfectly... about 2 mins to lock on to a signal tho. It does chew battery tho'... but I have a car charger.

I have used Garmin in the past, but haven't been impressed by their routing. TomTom maps seem better and more current... and can be updated often.

I'm thinking of buying a dedicated TomTom unit because of the good experience with TomTom Navigator software.
 
Agree with Lance for once. My nokia n82/5800 with garmin works 100%.
 
I have heard that the GPSes on cellphones (eg. Nokia 5800 & N97) are almost unusable because they jump about so badly. Must be due to bad reception or slow processors or inferior software.

Which cellphones have stable GPSes that can match the dedicated units?

I love my HTC Tytn 2 GPS ... its super stable ... the only time I've ever had an issue is when the actual Garmap software didn't know what to do when we were in the Bundus.
 
When I first moved to Jhb I bought a (then) budget gps unit - a Novogo v30 which uses the Handimap software. Updating the maps has been a nightmare, and last week I eventually did some research as to how to change the software on it. As it was a custom WinCE 4.2 Core ROM, it was not particularly straightforward, but after about 3 days of cursing, I'm now using Garmin XT on it. The satellite acquiring takes seconds compared to minutes with Handimap. Rerouting also takes seconds which was my main irk with the Handimap software - very annoying when you're lost and it can't reroute fast enough when you miss your turning.

Given my experience now, I'd never buy a lesser known brand GPS, unless it uses (or can use) Garmin or Tomtom maps - it's just asking for trouble later.
 
I use Garmin XT on my HTC Touch HD, works very well, GPS signal find is excellent, the big screen on the HD makes all the difference, just as good if not better than the dedicated devices, as I can also phone from it :D, voice is very good as well
 
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I use my 5800 loaded with Garmin xt to get me around and works brilliant, the 5800 battery last just as long as a normal in car gps battery lasts. I had the 6110 navigator before and the gps used to chow the battery but like your in car gps needs to be hooked up all the time invest in a car charger for your phone.
 
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