Fine Not Registered? Should I pay anything?

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Henry Howard Jnr

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Hello everyone

I have a slight problem and need advice.

In December I have been pulled off the road on the highway toward Johannesburg from Witbank. They said caught me speeding at 136km/h. The lady wrote a fine(making mistakes on colour of my vehicle, Surname and Name mispelled, and misspelled my street address).

In the meantime I have lost the fine...and I really did. I can remember it need to be paid before 29 February 2016.

Today I phoned AARTO and tried enquiring about the fine. Also, I checked 3 websites for the fine details...nothing. They don't have it on the system.

What if they were not real traffic officers? I have no clue what to do. It's my first fine in my 31 years...

What do I do?
 
Ignore the fine, but don't speed on the highway. Seriously, there is no logical reason to. If you want to go fast go to a track day, but do not speed on public roads. Your 13% less time on the road is likely to get yourself and others killed.
 
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Can you get a warrant for arrest for not paying a fine if you've never received a summons?
 
agentrfr said:
Ignore the fine, but don't speed on the highway. Seriously, there is no logical reason to. If you want to go fast go to a track day, but do not speed on public roads. Your 13% less time on the road is likely to get yourself and others killed.
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Lol. Tell that to all the other people on the road. Yesterday I was travelling at 120-125 constantly on the R21 on my way to the airport and back, and I was the slowest passenger car on the road, everyone else's behaviour suggested that 120 was the minimum required speed.
 
agentrfr said:
Ignore the fine, but don't speed on the highway. Seriously, there is no logical reason to. If you want to go fast go to a track day, but do not speed on public roads. Your 13% less time on the road is likely to get yourself and others killed.
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He was going 13% faster than he should have. I'm sure that margin makes all the difference in killing someone. No wonder there's such Carnage on the autobahn where they go 200+.

You shouldn't speed as it's against the law, but to say going 16km over the speed limit on a highway is going to get someone killed is retarded. From his tone he hardly sounds like a reckless individual, so I'm sure his small misdemeanor didn't pose any threat to anyone's welfare.
 
F1 Fan said:
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Can you get a warrant for arrest for not paying a fine if you've never received a summons?
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1. I also would like to know this.

2. Also... What will happen if the admin work on their side is just slow, and they only register it later, and eventually they pick up it's not paid yet? Is there a required time for them to load the fines on the system?

3. Should I also get a notice/reminder in the post?

4. Do they have to send a notice/reminder in the post, before issueing a warrant?

5. If they manage to register it on the system, and I go and renew my vehicles licence in November, what will the percentage of interest/penalty fees be before I will be able to renew my disc?
 
That ticket they gave him, that generally is a summons.
You can pay a admission of guilt or attend court.
 
mercurial said:
AFAIK, no.
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You won't get a warrant against your name for going 16km over the speed limit anyway. Also, they can't withhold your license disc if there are only outstanding fines. No warrant means they can't withhold it.
 
Is there a website you can view your fines that FNB find?
I have used the website i googled but the notice numbers dont exist.
 
Getafix said:
That ticket they gave him, that generally is a summons.
You can pay a admission of guilt or attend court.
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No, a summons includes a court date and where you have to appear. I think it's doing more than 40km/h over the prescribed limit on a highway. He received a normal fine.
 
Brenden_E said:
He was going 13% faster than he should have. I'm sure that margin makes all the difference in killing someone. No wonder there's such Carnage on the autobahn where they go 200+.

You shouldn't speed as it's against the law, but to say going 16km over the speed limit on a highway is going to get someone killed is retarded. From his tone he hardly sounds like a reckless individual, so I'm sure his small misdemeanor didn't pose any threat to anyone's welfare.
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Yes, that 13% makes a huge difference, actually.

dW=Fdx. Our friend Newton surmised F=m.a . dW=m.a.dx . a == dv/dt = dx/dt^2. dW=m.dv.dx/dt = m.v.dv . So int(dW)|0;W = m.int(v.dv)|v1;v2 . W = m.(v2^2-v1^2)/2. 13% difference not significant? Let's check: (1.13^2-1^2)/1^2 = 1.2769, or in other words going just 13% faster entails there is 28% more kinetic energy contained within the movement of the vehicle mass. Let's assume that the brakes on a car can impart a certain braking force irrespective of the speed of the car (they DO NOT, because you are limited by how much traction the tires can gain on the road as they deform as they mesh with the tarred surface, so if you are going faster the brakes become less effective (F1 cars run on slacks, not your car)), going 13% faster requires 28% longer stopping distance. Let's say you are doing 140km/hr on the highway - you'll get to your destination 16.7% quicker, but now you require 36% greater stopping distance. Let's be morons and drive at 150 km/hr, you're going 25% faster, but require 56.3% longer stopping distance absolute best case scenario.

There is no such thing as "responsible speeding" or "a little over the limit is okay" - every little bit faster you go grows exponentially the kinetic energy of the vehicle, and the driver's ability to control it in an emergency decreases exponentially inverse too. The roads are designed with lane wideness, surface roughness and incline specifically to make it as easy as possible to control a vehicle at the design speed. By going faster, you are not only endangering yourself, but those around you.

The difference between here and the Autobahn is that road is specifically engineered for high speed. The lanes are wide, the inclines are extremely soft and the tar surface is extra porus. Most importantly, drivers are specifically trained to keep a minimum "following distance" measured in time, not distance to account for the exponential increase in braking distance required when going faster. In SA people just drive as close to one another as possible everywhere - a not insignificant proportion unlicensed/improperly licensed completely clueless on how to use a highway.

If you are late it is your fault. Do not endanger others by going "a little bit over the limit". If you want to go fast, take your car to a track day.

Don't get me started on wind resistance that goes up by the cube of velocity, where kinetic energy only by the square.
 
Spent so much time on a frivolous exercise. Sedan from 1995 goes 120km/h. Sedan from 2015 goes 140km/h. Which stops first? Law of common sense: some people don't have it.

We should abandon driving and all just walk as speed and kinetic energy kills. Flying? Are you nuts?
 
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