Fines: Drivers may lose assets

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This is clearly not aimed at the most frequent offenders, because they have no assets to attach, and they drive without valid licenses anyway.

http://www.news24.com/News24/South_Africa/News/0,,2-7-1442_2228182,00.html

Pretoria - Pay your traffic fines, or lose your TV set. Or your furniture, your car or even your driver's licence.

That could be the fate, countrywide, of motorists next year when the new regulations outlined in the Administration Adjudication of Road Traffic Offences Act, are introduced by the national Department of Transport and Road Traffic Management Corporation (RTMC).

The points system, in terms of which motorists are accorded points when they commit traffic offences, and lose the points when there have been no offences for some time, will also be implemented.

Collen Msibi, spokesperson for the Department of Transport said the regulations and the points system would be piloted in Pretoria in January next year, by the Tshwane Metro Council.

Only 20% of fines paid

"Depending on how it works there, there'll be a decision on when to go national," Msibi said.

It would be up to the metro police officials and traffic officers at local and provincial level to apply the regulations.

Thabo Tsholetsane, acting chief of the RTMC, said only about 20% of the traffic fines issued every year, were paid.

"In Pretoria alone, there's R70m in outstanding fines."

Tsholetsane said in terms of the new regulations, if motorists had not paid their fines within three months their moveable assets could be confiscated.

"A warrant for the seizure would be obtained and moveable assets to the value of the outstanding fine would be seized."

Errant motorists could also be registered at the Credit Bureau.

Motorists who paid a fine within a month of its being issued could be considered for a 50% reduction.

The points system works as follows: Every motorist begins with zero points. Depending on how serious the offence is, points are awarded.

When a motorist has not committed a traffic offence for three months, one point is deducted. When a motorist reaches 12 points, the person's driver's licence can be suspended.

The new guidelines provide for an eNaTIS database of offences, making it possible for a motorist's history of offences to be called up on the scene on a computer screen.

Tsholetsane said this was the thinking behind budgeting to provide a hand-held computer to every traffic officer in the country who had to impose these regulations.

An amount of R72m was being budgeted to train officials, to develop the system and for communication, with a maximum budget of R13 000 per hand-held computer.

Msibi said the condition of the country's roads made it necessary to impose stricter controls.

"Most accidents are the result of traffic violations, and by taking stronger steps against offenders, the country's accident toll can be considerably reduced.

"We have to be strict if we want to have safer roads. If people know their driver's licences are at stake, they'll take traffic rules more seriously," he said.
 
Can you build up negative points? If you don't commit any violations for a year, can you end up with -4 points? :)

Being able to take your assets seems a bit extreme, though.
 
Good. Glad to see the point system finally being implemented.
 
Good. Glad to see the point system finally being implemented.

I'm not - because it will only be applied to the normal working class, not to taxi's, etc. The same way WE are targetted now.
 
It's definitely becoming more and more worthwhile to lose the number plate.
Depending on how serious the offence is, points are awarded.
I bet the number of points added for driving a vehicle that cannot do 50km/h up a hill, thus causing traffic congestion is a heck of a lot less than going 15 km/h over the speed limit.

Legitimate excuses for not having a numberplate:
1 - They fell off.
2 - Somebody likes/dislikes my personalised number plates and keeps stealing them .. here's the docket number.
 
I'm not - because it will only be applied to the normal working class, not to taxi's, etc. The same way WE are targetted now.
If you dont want to be targeted then dont speed. That way at least they wont have any excuse not to concentrate their efforts on the taxis etc. ;)
 
If you dont want to be targeted then dont speed. That way at least they wont have any excuse not to concentrate their efforts on the taxis etc. ;)

So you telling me you ALWAYS go 120/km an hour on the high way, and not maybe 130-140km/h? ;)
 
So you telling me you ALWAYS go 120/km an hour on the high way, and not maybe 130-140km/h? ;)
No - but I dont whine when I get caught either. I pay the fine.

And I'd be less likely to speed if I knew that my actions had more of a consequence than a fine.
 
Good. Glad to see the point system finally being implemented.
This is a whole new [-]revenue model[/-] *cough* form of actual policing/management; I don't see it working out at all well for them - too much of their so-called management is centred around making as much money off the motorist as possible.

The double whammy of cutting off their cash cow(s) as well as the added expense of actual policing is going to be problematic for them, just you wait and see! :rolleyes:
 
stoke said:
It's definitely becoming more and more worthwhile to lose the number plate.
The new plates being introduced are going to be riveted on to combat this.link

This is also a good idea IMHO. Hopefully it will help with the taxis driving around with stolen numberplates. I know that there is a taxi driving around with the same plates as our trailer somewhere in the Warden area.
 
Yea, make sure the empty space where the numberplate was is filled with 5-7 lines of little one-way screws, in each corner, to indicate how you replaced the plates 5-7 times, but could not remove the stupid screws.
 
i havent had a fine since 1999, as luck will have it i will probably get bust at 270km/h now
 
It goes through phases.

I find that its always just before xmas that I get like 3 or 4 fines...
Reckon ppl is working towards nice xmas bonuses
 
stoke it aint worth the number plate

i had both off for a year, got a few 400 fines for 2 plates

then they start gettin heavy and wanting to arrest you, so i figured being jailed and raped aint worth the money saved
 
Can you build up negative points? If you don't commit any violations for a year, can you end up with -4 points? :)

Yes, and when you have enough credits you can go to any government building and remove the equivalent value of moveable assets :)
 
What is the problem at the moment? That people don't turn up for court and never pay their fines, then warrants are issued, but they do not get arrested because they cannot be located? If they are arrested are they held until they pay?
 
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