Firewalls - Use them!

actually im constructivly telling the newbies that winnuke does nothing so they dont need a firewall for it and even if they have a firewall that doesn not equate to protection because a firewall just stops traffic flow to and from applications, if you have ports open, which you do (by the way someone already said this in this thread) then you need to have an intrusion detection system.
 
i have no idea what operating system you have, or any other user and no idea how paranoid you are
 
not really paranoid, just a decent one i guess.
I use win xp pro.
My modem has a firewall, aswell as winxp firewall, im assuming this isnt enough?
I use avg aswell for virusses and have an adware remover.
these are all up to date.
Ciao
J
 
Ok you wanna know the real secret of security? control

A firewall is a good start but all it does is sort data from trusted and untrusted sources.

people attack applications, so obviously you want to not have vulnerable applications on your computer which means learning how your computer works because alot of the time the applications people attack are ones that are default on your installation or common. Subscribe to bugtraq, disable services you dont need, learn how to monitor network activity of applications on your computer (netstat :P ), get an IDS (does it really matter which one? Because its not really how good the application is, its how good the rules are and how well its updated)

You cant chuck on a firewall and think, thats it, im safe.

and as firewalls go, proxy firewall > hardware firewall > software firewall
 
Hi All,

Maybe I did not start this thread the way I wanted. The point I was trying to make was how we are being attacked, and my insert was purely for example to show the number of times over 12 hours.

I can either ignore them and hope that none of them will succeed with my machine (present and new ones to come), that, either crashes my machine/server, or my machine becomes part of the problem.

I agree that Winnuke is not a big problem, but it was the principle I was trying to point out.

Yes, I am a newbie to networking and ADSL, as I am an embedded software engineer, and have joined this group to learn, and hopefully share ideas and my experiences.

Regards
Andy
 
zs6cey said:
When it came to setting up my firewall, I used the attack site http://www.grc.com to test my setup.

Not much help, but my limited knowledge.

Regards
Andy
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Hey Andy - don't diss your "limited knowledge".

That site IS a damn good way to check your ports - you have pointed him in the right direction.

The same site also has some sound advice and tips.

So kick back, relax, wash with a good stain remover (it clears grub, sludge and slime from the pores) every now and again, but most of all, enjoy your stay.


Keep Well

mac
 
justinct said:
not really paranoid, just a decent one i guess.
I use win xp pro.
My modem has a firewall, aswell as winxp firewall, im assuming this isnt enough?
I use avg aswell for virusses and have an adware remover.
these are all up to date.
Ciao
J
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The modem firewall is a good start already, but sadly, yes, it's not enough. All it does (at most) is stealth your ports (you can't be pinged). Incidently that's also what the XP firewall does. It only protects you from instrusions initiated from the outside. But if you go to a website that installs a trojan, you're really in trouble, because then the communication can be initiated from your computer, thereby rendering these firewalls useless. Also, if you forward any ports on your router (to enable P2P for example), these will not be stealthed (as far as I know).

What you need is a firewall, such as Zone Alarm, that authenticates individual programs to have access to the net. Now if the trojan tries to communicate, it will be blocked (or even better yet, your antivirus should've caught it). The forwarded ports will now also be "assigned" to the application that uses them.
 
NOTE TO NEW USERS: Ignore any comments that slimothy makes which you find have a harsh atmosphere (99% of his posts (i.e. the ones that contain more then one word)). He does have a history for being extremely rude and lacking in people skills.

Thanks lol
 
slimothy said:
...come on, you're words on the internet to me...
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I think there's your problem.

Look, obviously I don't know you, and I'm not trying to judge you. Just speaking for myself... You are not just "words on the Internet" to me. I learnt a long time ago (Way before the Internet, I used to run a BBS, and was an active participant in BBS forums) that everyone I see online is a human being, with real feelings, and real goals, and real aspirations, perhaps a family, a wife, a brother, a sister, a husband, a mother, a father... you get the idea. ;)

Cheers
Nocturne
 
Nocturne said:
Way before the Internet, I used to run a BBS, and was an active participant in BBS forums) that everyone I see online is a human being, with real feelings, and real goals, and real aspirations, perhaps a family
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So you were in Rob's List then ??? ;).
But true dat ... used to be active on Fidonet back then ... met a few of the BB folks in real life.
 
I was in Rob's list, yes. Started out as the Compu' Cafe. Then I was The Dungeon Keep. An after hours BBS in Alberton. I never had a link to FidoNet, but I was linked to a Christian network that was a spin-off of FidoNet (We had around 100 nodes or so, but really can't remember what it was called), and for the latter few years, I ran my own network called MaGNet, that had around 10 nodes.
 
Hey I was also on Rob's list :) ... even have a picture of my monitor somewhere in my photo albums, although it was so long ago it might still be in black and white.
 
Nocturne said:
I was in Rob's list, yes. Started out as the Compu' Cafe. Then I was The Dungeon Keep. An after hours BBS in Alberton. I never had a link to FidoNet, but I was linked to a Christian network that was a spin-off of FidoNet (We had around 100 nodes or so, but really can't remember what it was called), and for the latter few years, I ran my own network called MaGNet, that had around 10 nodes.
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Nocturne! I knew that name rang a bell!

I remember you from the Holodeck! (Ric Beatie (RIP) Mike Hesse that started Abit technologies (RIP), Glyness Williams (head mistress of an all-girl school), Otto Jurgens and wife, that scab of a Pollock (can’t remember his name) Philip Galt (pharmacist), Steve Hayes (Sysop of Unisa BBS… he still has a website going in the States, updating dope on ex-deckers), and a whole lot more…

If I remember correctly your board ran from 21h00 to 06h00 (special license from “The Post Office” aka Telkom?)

…wow…nostalgia just got a whole new meaning… I was the idjut acting like the slime-o-thee-ball in this Forum hence the nic (from Sir Ric [RIP]) of macPhallus.

You were pretty outspoken as well, as I recall – lol :D

Thanks for the trip down memory lane…

Keep Well

Marcellus



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I was in Rob's List too - I started and ran the HNR Computers BBS in the early '90s.
 
Nocturne said:
Yup! That's right! WOW!

You still keep in contact with any of the holodeckers?
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Nocturne, after we moved to East London I lost contact with most of them.
We had one last bash at Mike's (RIP) place just before I left.

When Ric (RIP) passed away I lost interest, but had occasional contact with Mike (RIP) until his heart attack.

Steve Hayes keeps an update of sorts:
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/7734/holodeck.htm

Keep Well

mac
 
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