First published RICA success?

JerryMungo

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http://www.dispatch.co.za/article.aspx?id=375876

I'm willing to bet that RICA is the reason the guy who purchased the stolen cellphone could be traced... and this led to the arrest of a murderer.

A MAN wanted in connection with the murder of an assistant bank manager killed for his cellphone in Amalinda last year was arrested last week.

The 20-year-old suspect, Siyabonga Menziwa, was arrested by police on Thursday night at a shack in Bardaton informal settlement in Duncan Village, said Captain Leon Fortune.

Fortune said the man confessed to the crime and appeared in court on Monday. His bail application is on February4.

Assisting police in their investigations was private investigator Christian Botha, who said Mongameli Nase, a 24- year-old assistant branch manager at a b ank in Gonubie, was murdered outside a pub in Amalinda in March last year. “He and a couple of friends were having drinks when his cellphone rang,” said Botha. “Nase went outside to take the call and that was the last time they saw him alive.”

About 15 minutes later a passerby walked into the pub and alerted patrons to the man lying injured outside.

“His friends took him to Frere Hospital, where he was pronounced dead,” said Botha. “He had been stabbed.”

Shortly after the incident, Nase’s family contacted Botha and asked him to get involved in the case.

“There was very little information to work with,” said Botha, speaking to the Dispatch yesterday. “There were no witnesses to the incident and his cellphone was all that was missing.”

Botha said he contacted the investigating officer and together the men set out to track the suspect down.

“This was quite a complicated case and we had to do things by the book, which is why it took so long because when we eventually made an arrest we didn’t want the case thrown out on a technicality,” he explained.

Botha said he could not disclose how they tracked the suspect down, except to say they traced a person who bought the stolen cellphone from the man.

“He had apparently bought it off the suspect for just R150 shortly after the murder had been committed.

“It just goes to show, people should be wary of buying stolen goods because you have no idea how the thief got his hands on them in the first place.”

After learning the whereabouts of the suspect last Thursday Botha accompanied the police to a shack in Duncan Village where the man was arrested.

“This case is a good example of how private investigators and the police can work together successfully,” he said.

Nase’s mother, Nosipho, said the family welcomed the news of the suspect’s arrest. “I am really happy there has been a breakthrough,” she said.

“It brings closure to us as a family because we were anxious to try and find out who had committed the crime and why my son was killed.”
 
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I dont think this shows anything to do with rica.
They could have just called the guys number.
Your bet is well a guess.
get some facts to back it up.
Cheers
 
I dont think this shows anything to do with rica.
They could have just called the guys number.
Your bet is well a guess.
get some facts to back it up.
Cheers

It's a hunch - read between the lines, and if it was as easy as phoning the guys number, don't you think it would have been an easy case to solve i.e. the cops could have even handled it :wtf:
Besides, what kind of person buys an obviously stolen phone and uses the sim that came with it. Really now.

Again, it's speculation, so believe what you like.
 
All I am saying is don't be so quick to say this could be a RICA win, criminals are stupid for the most part.
No need to read between the lines.
 
This had nothing to do with RICA

My mobile was stolen, traced and recovered years before RICA was even conceived.

They do it by means of triangluation. That is, pinpointing the location of a phone by checking its distance from 3 mobile towers - and that of the towers relative to eachother.

Police could use this for every single mobile phone thats stolen and then used within SA, but it's a costly exercise that is done through a private company (cost us R1600 - a bill that we passed on to the thief in exchange for not pressing charges (this was in school days))
 
Besides, what kind of person buys an obviously stolen phone and uses the sim that came with it. Really now.
You will be surprised. My brother in law got drunk and had his cell phone stolen. He called the number the following morning and it rang. The guy who answered just told him to f#ck off.
 
RICA wouldn't be needed if the telco's actually blacklisted stolen phones.
Black listing duplicate IMEI numbers automatically would also help.
 
RICA wouldn't be needed if the telco's actually blacklisted stolen phones.
Black listing duplicate IMEI numbers automatically would also help.

Just what I need. As soon as they get my bills right, I'll get blacklisted due to some or other admin bungle.

I wish I lived in Theory, where everything works. :(
 
Besides, what kind of person buys an obviously stolen phone and uses the sim that came with it. Really now.

No need for the SIM to still be in the phone - any SIM will do. Its traced by IMEI.
 
As already said, this has nothing to do with RICA. All you need is the guy's cellnum to track his cell (whether the SIM is currently in it or not).

What we might see more of, though, is criminals stealing cellphones in order to obtain RICA registered SIMs to commit a crime. We should see an increase in cellphone theft because of RICA after the cut-off date for RICA registrations.
 
Thanks to RICA and Cell C I'm going to win 8 45...... oops nearly gave out my cell number
 
Just what I need. As soon as they get my bills right, I'll get blacklisted due to some or other admin bungle.

I wish I lived in Theory, where everything works. :(

I phone can't be blacklisted without a case number from the police. Black listing duplicate IMEI numbers shouldn't affect you unless some syndicate have guessed your number.
 
What does this have to with RICA?

I doubt the criminal went and re-registered the stolen cellphone under his actual name. LOL.

There is no way they could have used RICA in this trace, since both the thief/murderer and the guy who bought the phone were in any way required to register with RICA.

They probably just did a triangulation on the IMEI.
 
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Assisting police in their investigations was private investigator Christian Botha

The police need Private Investigators to do their jobs efficently? This Article reads to me as 'The police, who dont actually care, sat on their fat @sses while the family hired a PI due to police incompetence'
 
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