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Hi I will building my first pc in a few days time. My approximate budget is R6000-6500. I would like to know if these specs are right and if there is any way I could improve the specs.

i5 2500k CPU
ASUS P8P67 PRO Mobo
Corsair CX600 PSU
Corsair CMZ4GX3M1A1600C9B Vengeance 4GB DDR3-1600 1.5v Desktop RAM
Coolermaster CM690 II windowed CASE
Kingston SV100S2/64G 2.5" 64GB MLC SATA2 SSD
Sony 24X Super Multi DVD Writer (SATA) DVD WRITER
Sapphire HD6950 2GB GPU (not included in my budget. Will buy later)

I will buy the CPU, Motherboard, SSD and dvd writer from Esquire and the rest from Prophecy

Thanks for all your help
 
That seems spot on for me.

I suppose that the only thing that will be questioned here is the SSD perhaps...

I'm assuming you'll only be using the PC for gaming mainly. If that's the case then I think you're fine.

If you're going to do other things more often or have the cash for it, have a look at the Corsair Force Series 3 SSD's perhaps.. They seem to be a lot quicker, although R400 or so more.

I'm the guy that always looks at an SSD last in terms of a gaming PC as I'd prefer putting that money towards a better graphics card always, but I don't see the need for that here, so go for it.

-And just before it seems like I said a weird thing, I actually meant it as a good thing. There is nothing that I can find as wrong with the PC. Merely pointing out a better option for an SSD, although having an SSD already is a big leap.
 
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Are you not going to require a HDD for storage? Its going to be a tight fit to have everything on 64GB, I would rather just buy a 7200RPM drive for now and get an SDD later then, I know it offers a nice performance boost but at the cost of that much space I wouldn't do it. If you not going to be doing any gaming on it right away then it will be fine to not buy the gfx card now but if you plan on doing any gaming I would invest a gfx card before a SSD if I was you, SDD is mainly just for OS with most of your storage on a Harddrive. The main component that will hold you back is a gfx card these days as the i5 range will handle most games extremely well, most newer CPU's will, games aren't as CPU dependant but GFX card plays a huge role.
 
Libertas Computers said:
That seems spot on for me.

I suppose that the only thing that will be questioned here is the SSD perhaps...

I'm assuming you'll only be using the PC for gaming mainly. If that's the case then I think you're fine.

If you're going to do other things more often or have the cash for it, have a look at the Corsair Force Series 3 SSD's perhaps.. They seem to be a lot quicker, although R400 or so more.

I'm the guy that always looks at an SSD last in terms of a gaming PC as I'd prefer putting that money towards a better graphics card always, but I don't see the need for that here, so go for it.

-And just before it seems like I said a weird thing, I actually meant it as a good thing. There is nothing that I can find as wrong with the PC. Merely pointing out a better option for an SSD, although having an SSD already is a big leap.
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+1

But one thing that bothers me is the PSU.

Rather get the Antec HCG (High Current Gamer) 520 watt. It's 80+ certified, the CX600 (still a great PSU) isn't which makes it less efficient. While the HCG 520 is "only" advertised at 520 watts, it actually puts out the same as the CX600 on the 12v rail (480 watts). So arguably it's a better PSU for a few Rand less.

If OP wants a Corsair PSU, then I'd recommend starting at GS500/600 as they seem to be the [more expensive] competitors to Antec's HCGs.
 
If your budget is only R6000 - R6500 and you're buying the PC primarily for gaming, then I'd suggest the following:

Buy a motherboard without Crossfire/SLi capabilities, (either you're not going to Crossfire/SLi, or you'll have to buy a bigger PSU when you do). That is also dependent on whether you want to OC your CPU, if not, don't buy an expensive motherboard..

Secondly, purely based on your budget, I would get a cheaper CPU to fit a GPU in earlier.

Lastly, go without an SSD for now, let that be your upgrade a tad later, your PC is still functional without an SSD but you can't game with the onboard GPU. So switch your GPU and SSD purchase around.
 
PostmanPot said:
But one thing that bothers me is the PSU.

Rather get the Antec HCG (High Current Gamer) 520 watt. It's 80+ certified, the CX600 (still a great PSU) isn't which makes it less efficient. While the HCG 520 is "only" advertised at 520 watts, it actually puts out the same as the CX600 on the 12v rail (480 watts). So arguably it's a better PSU for a few Rand less.

If OP wants a Corsair PSU, then I'd recommend starting at GS500/600 as they seem to be the [more expensive] competitors to Antec's HCGs.
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Wait a bit. Hang on.. Are you actually recommending a PSU other than Corsair? Wow... :p Never thought this day would come!

But yes, I agree with what you have to say though. You're better off with the HCG and people seem to forget the importance of a PSU.

Frag said:
Buy a motherboard without Crossfire/SLi capabilities.
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@OP. Are you considering future SLI / Crossfire? If you feel like you won't in the next couple of years, drop the motherboard down to a P8P67-M and save R700. If you do, that changes your budget as you'll need a bigger PSU...
 
Get a 120gb ssd, 64 is way too small and you will end up frustrated, as ghost says get a 7200rpm drive until you can buy a bigger ssd.

The speed is great but i doubt its worth the frustration of space issues.
 
killadoob said:
The speed is great but i doubt its worth the frustration of space issues.
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Agreed. I sort of assumed the OP had a HDD that he will be using in this build and adding the SSD as extra.

Even though it seems like it is more worthwhile to buy an SSD now as it used to be 3x more than a HDD, but the same price now it still is not worth having the space issues. At least get a 500Gb HDD for now and add an SSD later. (Or use the R800 saved from the mb if you won't be using a multi-GPU setup to add a 500Gb to the order)
 
killadoob said:
Get a 120gb ssd, 64 is way too small and you will end up frustrated, as ghost says get a 7200rpm drive until you can buy a bigger ssd.

The speed is great but i doubt its worth the frustration of space issues.
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64GB is enough capacity unless their total amount of apps wanted to be installed on the SSD exceeds 35GB or some such.

For Windows + a few important apps, 64GB is enough. Again it all depends on the user. It's all well saying "just get a 120GB SSD", without taking into consideration the specific case of the OP.
 
Gaming rig and 64 gb lol ok

Think about the cost 1.6k vs 2.2k if 64gb is not enough it will cost much more than 600 to fix the issue. Common sense dictates that 64gb is too small for a gaming rig unless he wants a 6950 because its a cool thing to have but I would imagine gaming. So windows plus a few apps and two games. Out of space. Yea sounds fun
 
killadoob said:
Gaming rig and 64 gb lol ok
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Not too sure what this means?

Personally I am an avid gamer, but I only play Sc2 and Bf3 (total size of around 25GB I think?).

Like I said, it depends on the user.

So I think it'd be appreciated by all if you wouldn't come here with your odd remarks and lols and general shoving of a certain personal opinion (general trolling). We're here to advise the OP who can think for themselves; not enter into a discussion about needed SSD capacity which is based on the OP, and not you.

Think about the cost 1.6k vs 2.2k if 64gb is not enough it will cost much more than 600 to fix the issue. Common sense dictates that 64gb is too small for a gaming rig unless he wants a 6950 because its a cool thing to have but I would imagine gaming. So windows plus a few apps and two games. Out of space. Yea sounds fun
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Perhaps educate yourself by downloading Esquire's latest price list and checking the price for the Kingston 64GB SSD.

Perhaps read the OP properly and understand all the facts esp. budget constraints, instead of simply breezing over the thread and being quick to just shove your opinion (troll), which does not incorporate the OP, his interests, budget; i.e. it's not advice.
 
Well 3 people have advised him not to go 64gb and in all honesty 64gb would be a mistake down the line and he will regret it.

There is nothing more frustrating than running out of space and having to uninstall stuff to install stuff. So our advice (ghost libertas and killa) would be not to go 64 gb. Also remember 64gb is not what you end up using. Kingston? Eish no.

If you don't like it postman that is your issue but your mood/attitude is shocking bud.

http://www.kingston.com/ukroot/ssd/v_series.asp i sure hope that is not the one they sell because that is one of the worst ssd's on the market. That is your advice and we respect it, we won't call you a troll for giving it either bud :D. Happy happy :D it's friday.
 
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killadoob said:
Well 3 people have advised him not to go 64gb and in all honesty 64gb would be a mistake down the line and he will regret it.

There is nothing more frustrating than running out of space and having to uninstall stuff to install stuff. So our advice (ghost libertas and killa) would be not to go 64 gb. Also remember 64gb is not what you end up using. Kingston? Eish no.

If you don't like it postman that is your issue but your mood/attitude is shocking bud.

http://www.kingston.com/ukroot/ssd/v_series.asp i sure hope that is not the one they sell because that is one of the worst ssd's on the market.
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Killa, I fully support the idea of a larger SSD, if space is going to be an issue and if budget is not a constraint as per this specific thread/OP. This is completely user dependant, and just because you understand it's frustrating running out of space, does not mean everyone will run out of space.

My issue is your lack of understanding of the budget at hand. Simply saying "no you must get a 120GB, 64GB is going to be a mistake, you will have space issues" etc. is all good and well if there is a larger budget to accommodate for a SSD twice the price.

My mood/attitude in no way means to shock, but I'm glad it shocks you because maybe it will help make you start properly comprehending OPs and their posts, and help you to separate threads advising specific users compared to threads about general debate of x y z components.

For the record, once again you have misconstrued what forumites have said, in your need for establishing support of your position. Ghost02 said something completely different - he was questioning the lack of a storage HDD in the build, not advising a larger SSD as you make it out to be. Libertas agrees that space can become an issue, just like I do: He is not advising OP to get a 120GB SSD, because he understands budget (I'd imagine). You make out something different.
 
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killadoob said:
Dude the difference is 600 rand, it's not exactly bank breaking and it will cost more when he runs out of space.
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Once again you prove utmost failure at forum debate by displaying your complete ignorance, arrogance, and lack of understanding.

Like I said, download the ESQ price list yourself (from which the OP is lucky enough to be able to buy) and look at the price, then compare to 120GB SSDs.

I will not reply to the rest of your post, it's complete trolling: Shifting of goal posts from SSD size debate to false accusations of now supposedly recommending brands/products over others because of a position based on size needed and budget as per the OP and this thread, false pricing knowledge, false calling of me being "agroman".
 
64GB :wtf:

Seriously? That is a joke.

Agree with Killa, spend the extra 600 bux or don't even bother. Rather get a 7200 HDD.
 
Grimspoon said:
64GB :wtf:

Seriously? That is a joke.

Agree with Killa, spend the extra 600 bux or don't even bother. Rather get a 7200 HDD.
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Strange, I have friends with 60GB SSDs that are heavy users and would disagree with it being a joke.

It shows that capacity needed is completely up to the needs of the person (and in this specific thread, there are budget constraints, I'm quite sure I read budget is R6 - R6.5k, and after checking supplier price on the Kingston,I'm very sure a 120GB SSD would up that by R1,000).

If there is R1,000 available, then great, by all means get a 120GB SSD if needs be.

Just because your gaming/apps collection exceeds ±35 - 40GB, does not mean that a 64GB SSD would be a joke for someone else.
 
PostmanPot said:
Strange, I have friends with 60GB SSDs that are heavy users and would disagree with it being a joke.

It shows that capacity needed is completely up to the needs of the person.

Just because your gaming/apps collection exceeds ±35 - 40GB, does not mean that a 64GB SSD would be a joke for someone else.
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I just couldn't imagine having to deal with only 64GB. Thats before windows is installed etc. With Outlook, Adobe, etc etc etc etc you will be short on space in no time.

If it is just running Windows, maybe, but even then I wouldn't be comfortable with only 64GB.
 
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