First time build

Grimspoon said:
Whats wrong with this SSD?

Seems like a good price for a 120. Unless I am missing something.

http://www.takealot.com/electronics/ocz-vertex-plus-2-5-sata-ii-solid-state-drive-120gb,9856010
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I quote Oj0 from a thread he made this morning on Carbonite:
HDD and SSD drive failure rates
- Samsung 1.5% (against 1.8%)
- Seagate 1.8% (against 2.0%) (1.6% without the 7200.11 160 GB)
- Western 2.0% (against 1.5%)
- Hitachi 3.0% (against 3.1%)

Big surprise, Western Digital is dethroned by Samsung and Seagate. This is due to a failure rate of return for up significantly, while it is better to competitors. Hitachi maintains its last place, with a gap still fairly clear, despite a slight drop. It should be noted that only 3 discs exceed 5%, two are listed below and the third is a 160GB 7200.11 which is 16.4%: probably an old stock that was a problem with the firmware in this series.

More specifically the return rate for failure to 1TB drives:

- 3.65% Western Digital Caviar Blue (WD10EALS)
- 3.59% Hitachi Deskstar 7K1000.C (HDS721010CLA332)
- 2.89% Western Digital Caviar Black (WD1001FALS)
- 2.79% Western Digital Caviar Black (WD1002FAEX)
- 1.61% Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 (ST31000528AS)
- 1.57% Western Digital Caviar Green (WD10EARS)
- 1.31% Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 (ST31000524AS)
- 1.27% Western Digital Caviar Blue (WD10EALX)
- 1.15% Samsung SpinPoint F3 (HD103SJ)

And the 2 TB disks:

- 5.53% Western Digital RE4-GP (WD2002FYPS)
- 5.07% Hitachi Deskstar 7K2000 (HDS722020ALA330)
- 4.75% Hitachi Deskstar 7K3000 (HDS723020BLA642)
- 4.42% Western Digital Caviar Black (WD2002FAEX)
- 3.48% Seagate Barracuda LP (ST32000542AS)
- 3.40% Seagate Barracuda XT (ST32000641AS)
- 3.05% Western Digital Caviar Green (WD20EARS)
- 2.98% Seagate Barracuda Green (ST2000DL003)
- 2.20% Samsung SpinPoint EcoGreen F4 (HD204UI)

Overall 2 TB drives are less reliable than 1 TB drives in a range as in the other, offering the Samsung models with the lowest rates. Note that on the Western Digital RE4-GP (WD2002FYPS), the sample is quite small (253 pieces) and half of the returns (7) were performed on the same sale: it abnormal for a hard "pro" can be explained by a problem during transport.

- Intel 0.1% (against 0.3%)
- Crucial 0.8% (against 1.9%)
- Corsair 2.9% (against 2.7%)
- OCZ 4.2% (against 3.5%)

Intel confirms its first place with a return rate of the most impressive. It is followed from Crucial, which significantly improves the rate but it must be said that the latter was heavily impacted by the M225 - the C300 is only reached 1%. The return rate for failure are up against Corsair and OCZ especially in the latter confirmed by far his last position. 8 SSDs are beyond the 5%:

- 9.14% 2 240 GB OCZ Vertex
- 8.61% 2 120 GB OCZ Agility
- 7.27% 40GB OCZ Agility 2
- 6.20% 60GB OCZ Agility 2
- 5.83% 80 GB Corsair Force
- 5.31% 90GB OCZ Agility 2
- 5.31% 2 100 GB OCZ Vertex
- 5.04% OCZ Agility 2 3.5 "120 GB

Note the courage of Corsair Force 80, who came to be inserted between cousins ​​OCZ based SandForce ... sic.
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Based on that I won't buy OCZ.
His source is in his post, this is his post:
http://www.carbonite.co.za/f20/hard-drive-ssd-failure-rates-20604/
 
Frag said:
Based on that I won't buy OCZ.
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Very little wrong with OCZ if you get the Agility/Vertex 3 series
The 2's and 1's were a pain though, but then again, almost everyone elses were also failing/going through recalls
 
Libertas Computers said:
@OP. Are you considering future SLI / Crossfire? If you feel like you won't in the next couple of years, drop the motherboard down to a P8P67-M and save R700. If you do, that changes your budget as you'll need a bigger PSU...
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I won't be using crossfire
 
Ghost02 said:
Are you not going to require a HDD for storage? Its going to be a tight fit to have everything on 64GB, I would rather just buy a 7200RPM drive for now and get an SDD later then, I know it offers a nice performance boost but at the cost of that much space I wouldn't do it. If you not going to be doing any gaming on it right away then it will be fine to not buy the gfx card now but if you plan on doing any gaming I would invest a gfx card before a SSD if I was you, SDD is mainly just for OS with most of your storage on a Harddrive. The main component that will hold you back is a gfx card these days as the i5 range will handle most games extremely well, most newer CPU's will, games aren't as CPU dependant but GFX card plays a huge role.
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I already have a 500GB hard drive
 
3dgamer said:
I already have a 500GB hard drive
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I thought something like this would be the case.

3dgamer said:
Will be overclocking.
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Don't forget an after-market CPU cooler. Esquire don't seem to have any air coolers but they do sell the Antec closed loop water cooling systems for around R700. Otherwise when you order the rest of your parts, go with the Cooler Master Hyper 212+ Evo at around R300, as it's the best bang for buck cooler.
 
Grimspoon said:
64GB :wtf:

Seriously? That is a joke.

Agree with Killa, spend the extra 600 bux or don't even bother. Rather get a 7200 HDD.
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It's more off a joke than using the SSD for windows/Games/Software all together for your primary drive, I have a 60GB SSD currently and all i use it for is windows + small software, and i use 7200 SATA hardrives for DATA.
 
Shirou said:
It's more off a joke than using the SSD for windows/Games/Software all together for your primary drive, I have a 60GB SSD currently and all i use it for is windows + small software, and i use 7200 SATA hardrives for DATA.
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Would you, given the chance now, upgrade to a 120GB for R600 extra?
I think that was the center of the argument. If I won a 60GB SSD I'd happily use it for the same purpose you do, but given that I'd have to buy one, I'd start looking @ 120GB
Just my opinion, not trying to condemn people with 60GB SSDs or trying to change the OP's mind, just want to add to his ability of making an informed decision. :)
 
Frag said:
Would you, given the chance now, upgrade to a 120GB for R600 extra?
I think that was the center of the argument. If I won a 60GB SSD I'd happily use it for the same purpose you do, but given that I'd have to buy one, I'd start looking @ 120GB
Just my opinion, not trying to condemn people with 60GB SSDs or trying to change the OP's mind, just want to add to his ability of making an informed decision. :)
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I think budget is the limiting factor though? I.e. there isn't R1,000 extra available to upgrade to 120GB.

Which 120GB SSD costs R600 more than the Kingston 60GB (+-R1,000 from suppliers)? I think you'll find it's closer to R1,000.
 
Wow.. I seam to have missed quite a lot in this thread.

Bottom line from me:

The OP is not going to SLI / Crossfire in the near future, so the Antec HCG 520W would be a nice PSU, although maybe a Corsair GS600 would be better for future proofing. (I own one)

Because of this the OP can also drop the MB to an Asus P8P67-M to still overclock, but remove the SLI / Crossfire capabilities and saving R600.

The OP already has a 500Gb HDD. A 60Gb SSD would then be perfect for the budget, running the OS and the 2 or so games currently being played off it.

Anything I missed?
 
Libertas Computers said:
Because of this the OP can also drop the MB to an Asus P8P67-M to still overclock, but remove the SLI / Crossfire capabilities and saving R600.
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How much is an Asus P8P67-M MB? I am getting an Asus P8P67 PRO for R1430 from Esquire. Can a good Asus p67 MB get any cheaper than this?:confused:
 
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