Five of the best CMSs

Umbraco

mbp said:
I take that back... prices are HORRENDOUS!
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I thought so too, and actually still do, but the base 'open source' product (which is free, and not explained well on their .org site, but better here http://umbraco.codeplex.com/) appears to have everything that pro does, except access to their internal resources and support etc.

I am looking closely at Umbraco, as I really really like it's architecture; IMHO it is way superior to any of the CMS's I have worked with or looked at including MOSS, WSS, Joomla, Drupal, DNN, a few proprietary ones and various others.

Problem is the user base is small and it is quite programmer oriented (despite the hype on their .org site), so there are going to be much fewer add-ons than Joomla for instance, and those add-ons generally save time.

This might change over time. And of course, .net hosting is generally less available and more expensive than php. I also don't like the fact that I cannot hang an Umbraco site of a base .Net site as the url rewriter cannot cope with living in a sub-folder. For me at this stage, that is a show stopper. Hopefully they will fix this soon, and I am not the first person to have an issue with it.

MBP, I suggest you download the free version of Umbraco and re-evaluate.
 
Joomla not so great; Drupal awesome

Joomla can be overly-bloated as a system, especially when it comes to categories and tags. I prefer using Drupal, although it has slightly steeper learning curve, Drupal is fantastic for either blogging or creating a web portal.

Wordpress gets a big thumbs up from me in terms of its ease of use, and aesthetically pleasing admin interface

Check out my blog posting to find out more: http://www.jotmedia.co.za/content/welcome-jotmediacoza
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mbp said:
How does it beat almost everyone? Do you have a link to that bit? Seems like a big list and not a rating system...
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MOST COMPARED > Hit the check boxes and click COMPARE!

RTFS
 
This seems to be an article about blogging engines more than CMS'es. I'd never consider WordPress, EE or Textpattern for anything other than that.

Some nice points though, a bit sad that Plone wasn't mentioned but understandable. Blogging is not it's strong point, nor is ease of use, but for an enterprise level solution it should be in the top tier of Open Source CMS'es.
 
nelwa said:
Firstly let me say that I have never installed Joomla, I just managed a couple of sites on behalf of clients who had a joomla setup...but my experience of it were absolutely revolting
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hmmm, So no real experience with the system, does the comment from the article actually ring any bells?

http://mybroadband.co.za/news/Software/9472.html" said:
Joomla!'s backend is attractive but can be confusing to new users because of all its configuration options.
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Considering as well that its OS, I think its one step above any other "closed source" applications which are designed for a specific purpose instead of millions


mbp said:
How I would love to believe you :p
But evidently since I'm not yet one of your clients I can't... of course, you could give us a linky to one of your clients sites ?
Perhaps you can run a quick comparison for us - yours vs drupal for example...
How is your forum module?
I see you have a patient management system - I read about ICD10 - do you do HL7? If not, why not?
Thansk in advance...
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Would also be interested to know that
 
I've only ever used Joomla to build sites from scratch; after getting past the first few hours of tearing my hair out trying to figure out WTF was going on, I haven't considered trying a different CMS because it's handled everything I've thrown at it so far (with thanks to modPHP :D).
 
IdlePhaedrus said:
I thought so too, and actually still do, but the base 'open source' product (which is free, and not explained well on their .org site, but better here http://umbraco.codeplex.com/) appears to have everything that pro does, except access to their internal resources and support etc.

I am looking closely at Umbraco, as I really really like it's architecture; IMHO it is way superior to any of the CMS's I have worked with or looked at including MOSS, WSS, Joomla, Drupal, DNN, a few proprietary ones and various others.

Problem is the user base is small and it is quite programmer oriented (despite the hype on their .org site), so there are going to be much fewer add-ons than Joomla for instance, and those add-ons generally save time.

This might change over time. And of course, .net hosting is generally less available and more expensive than php. I also don't like the fact that I cannot hang an Umbraco site of a base .Net site as the url rewriter cannot cope with living in a sub-folder. For me at this stage, that is a show stopper. Hopefully they will fix this soon, and I am not the first person to have an issue with it.

MBP, I suggest you download the free version of Umbraco and re-evaluate.
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Have done so and ja, you are correct, without deeper reading, it's easy to get the impression it's a pay for... jumped the gun it seems... am very happy now. Here's a great rundown of Umbraco:

http://www.cmswire.com/cms/web-cms/...raco-web-content-management-system-004296.php
 
Thanks MBP, that is a great link. It also encapsulates what I thought of Umbraco exactly.
 
Joomla can be a bit bloated and provides a lot of built in functionality for modules you might not need.
I've always used open source CMS's but I must admit, Sitefinity for .NET is extremely flexible... You can add whatever functionality you'd like by writing your own controls
 
rose_vz said:
Been fiddling with Drupal. I'm surprised here - there was no mention of DotNetNuke being a .Net based platform.

I am totally disillusioned with Drupal forum options. I'm running v6 and the forum integration is pathetic to say the least. Has anyone had any experience with combining drupal with another forum? phpBB or vBulletin? I seriously don't want users to have to log in twice to view regular content and take part in the forum... any suggestions?
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How does Drupal compare with DotNetNuke, wordpress or Joomla?
Any recommendations to a beginner with CMS, but someone that is already technically experienced with the internet?!
 
An awesome beginner CMS in my opinion is SilverStripe

It's easy to get going and very easy to maintain. Good documentation too. Ignore the 'demo' mention on their page, you can have it all for free without the fancy support of the paid package. It's a Kiwi product - the Kiwi's do some awesome software surprisingly - who knows Wingate? Wingate was quite the pop package back in the day...
 
ACloete said:
How does Drupal compare with DotNetNuke, wordpress or Joomla?
Any recommendations to a beginner with CMS, but someone that is already technically experienced with the internet?!
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IMO, Wordpress is probably the most popular CMS to start with. Don't under estimate it as just a blogging tool, some powerful websites are made with it. Literally millions of docs, themes, tutorials, plugins etc. Also have a look at wordpress.tv
 
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swb said:
IMO, Wordpress is probably the most popular CMS to start with. Don't under estimate it as just a blogging tool, some powerful websites are made with it. Literally millions of docs, themes, tutorials, plugins etc. Also have a look at wordpress.tv
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I've heard people praising word-press to be easy to start with.
What would be the disadvantage of WP against Drupal/Joomla or others?
 
Drupal is very very confusing for first timers and it lacks decent templates. Joomla is more feature rich than wordpress. Out of the box, Wordpress is better for blogs.
 
Terrabiticfossilite said:
Been fiddling with Drupal. I'm surprised here - there was no mention of DotNetNuke being a .Net based platform.

I am totally disillusioned with Drupal forum options. I'm running v6 and the forum integration is pathetic to say the least. Has anyone had any experience with combining drupal with another forum? phpBB or vBulletin? I seriously don't want users to have to log in twice to view regular content and take part in the forum... any suggestions?
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yeah drupal's forum is ... lets just say limited. i have a drupal site that i've linked to phpbb and it works quite nicely (http://sadwcon.org - if you're interested). you need to install the forum in the drupal folder and use the phpbb module (http://drupal.org/project/phpbbforum - it's alpha for drupal 7 but i've not had any issues). the trick comes in with the settings and getting the two to talk to each other. once it's set up you get a whole bunch of blocks you can use on you site - stats, most resent posts blah blah blah
 
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