FOA: demon angel

[Mekon]

Did you eventually get a Motorola Defy? I got one through Autopage, although I had to wait 5 days for it because they had to order it. Oddly the saleslady was perplexed as to why I wanted that and not a Nokia N8 or a Blackberry like everyone else:wtf:

Anyway I an very happy with it. It is beer proof as well as water proof. the beer thing was an accident.

 

[HavocXphere]

You do realize we've got a Private Message function, right?

 

[demon angel]

Did you eventually get a Motorola Defy? I got one through Autopage, although I had to wait 5 days for it because they had to order it. Oddly the saleslady was perplexed as to why I wanted that and not a Nokia N8 or a Blackberry like everyone else:wtf:

Anyway I an very happy with it. It is beer proof as well as water proof. the beer thing was an accident.

LOLZ!

No still not, but nothings going to stop me from getting my DEFY!:twisted:

MTN are a bunch of stupid sods who literally have me by the nuts because my contract with them expires on the 5 of June and now due to to false advertising have forced me to wait until June 15 to perhaps get the phone through them if it arrives when they say it arrives.

A quick look on Hellopeter confirmed my suspicions on peoples anger towards MTN on the false advertising and i actually did go to the Tokai Blue Route Nashua mobile store to ask about their Defy deal.

I have suffered and have practiced the patience of a Tibetan monk and WILL be getting that phone though.

The durability and general feel of the Defy has really impressed me and my current phone is packing its bags for digital heaven as it wont survive another Cape Town winter in the rain.
Not mention the MB 525's incredible overclocking capability...

Glad to hear the phone is beer proof as it is a staple in my diet.....

And as for the sales lady at Nashua, it just goes to show how little they know about technology and one just cannot argue with ignorance.


Enjoy the gem Mekon, and our very own Ocleroux(Vodacom rep dude has one so that's gotta mean something)

*Im also still green with envy*

 

[Vulk]

Oddly the saleslady was perplexed as to why I wanted that and not a Nokia N8 or a Blackberry like everyone else:wtf:

In my experience, this is very typical of retailers in the cellular industry. SA retailers don't like Android, often don't know what it is, and they don't carry stock of Android phones.

A family member recently upgraded, and I recommended the LG Optimus One as a decent, cheap Android phone that is available on contract. The only problem was, even though our local shopping mall has three different Vodacom stores, not a single one of them (nor any other cellular retailer in the mall, of which there were several) actually had stock of the phone. Eventually she went to Vodacom World because that was the only place that had stock, but most people wouldn't have the patience for that.

 

[Mekon]

Personally I think it is BS from the retailers/SP's. Like they feel they have a right to choose what you want. I remember some years ago when I went to a MTN dealer for an upgrade, the specific phone I was after was a Moto E398. But for some reason any phone I made inquires about all this sales man could hear was Nokia 6600. So I said I would take a E398. He looked at me and said "well Sir we don't have stock, so will you take the 6600 instead?" Me: "No I won't, order a E398 then, thanks." Then with a long face he fills out a order form.

Really baffling that a customer didn't want what he was trying to force upon the customer.

 

[Mekon]

Im really enjoying it. I had a Wildfire for about 3 months but this is just miles better. But then the Wildfire is a budget Android phone. But at least now I can play Angry Birds.

 

[demon angel]

Im really enjoying it. I had a Wildfire for about 3 months but this is just miles better. But then the Wildfire is a budget Android phone. But at least now I can play Angry Birds.

Funny you should mention the Wildfire.

They offered it to me after failing to deliver on the Defy.

I would have taken it too but that was before a certain rugged weather tough smartphone was seen in the Yell'o PDF for such a great price.

The words were to the effect of: 'Sir why don't you rather get the Wildfire, its such a good seller and it has the same features of the Defy.'

I didn't dignify that with an answer and said you need to get your facts straight and compare the two phones on GSM arena.

I should have asked him to throw the Wildfire in a swimming pool and see if it would still work!

Good news from the lazy yellow company is that the Motorola MB525 will be in their warehouses by June 15, available on a MTN Anytime TOP UP @R129.

I have come too far to give up now.....

 

[Vulk]

Personally I think it is BS from the retailers/SP's. Like they feel they have a right to choose what you want. I remember some years ago when I went to a MTN dealer for an upgrade, the specific phone I was after was a Moto E398. But for some reason any phone I made inquires about all this sales man could hear was Nokia 6600. So I said I would take a E398. He looked at me and said "well Sir we don't have stock, so will you take the 6600 instead?" Me: "No I won't, order a E398 then, thanks." Then with a long face he fills out a order form.

Geez, don't even get me started about the the retail cellular industry. There are so many problems there:

1. As a general principle, they treat their customers like crap. I suspect this is due to the size of the networks. Vodacom in particular has 22 million customers already, so what's the marginal cost of losing a few due to bad customer service? When my mother's phone was stolen recently, the local Vodacom Shop made her stand in a queue for over an hour just to get a form so she could claim from her insurance customer. I've had plenty of similar experiences to this myself.

2. Until very recently, Vodacom didn't even let you touch the cellphone you were planning on buying from them. You had to make do with a plastic "dummy phone". Stop to think about how insane this is. What computer store would expect you to buy a machine, for thousands of rands, without ever having seen the software? But Vodacom customers were willing to put up with this, in part because tricks you into thinking that "upgrading" means you're getting a phone for free and you should just be grateful, when in reality you do end up paying for it one way or another.

3. The sales assistants don't have any knowledge of their own products. Recently, when I was at the HTC store buying a cover for my phone, the sales assistant saw my phone and remarked "nice ROM you've got there". This instantly won him a lot of goodwill from me, because of the favourable contrast it created with Vodacom employees. In my experience, not only do most Vodacom sales assistant not know what a custom ROM is, the majority of them don't know what Android is, even though Android is currently the best-selling smartphone platform in the world.

4. Their retail business model relies on just-in-time supply chains with very limited stock kept on site. The result of this is that, even though Vodacom has a huge catalogue, and smartphones are now so ubiquitous that every second shop at the mall sells them, the vast majority of retailers have only one model in stock: the every-present Blackberry Curve 8520, which has basically become the Citi Golf of smartphones in South Africa.

 

[Mekon]

Geez, don't even get me started about the the retail cellular industry. There are so many problems there:

1. As a general principle, they treat their customers like crap. I suspect this is due to the size of the networks. Vodacom in particular has 22 million customers already, so what's the marginal cost of losing a few due to bad customer service? When my mother's phone was stolen recently, the local Vodacom Shop made her stand in a queue for over an hour just to get a form so she could claim from her insurance customer. I've had plenty of similar experiences to this myself.

2. Until very recently, Vodacom didn't even let you touch the cellphone you were planning on buying from them. You had to make do with a plastic "dummy phone". Stop to think about how insane this is. What computer store would expect you to buy a machine, for thousands of rands, without ever having seen the software? But Vodacom customers were willing to put up with this, in part because tricks you into thinking that "upgrading" means you're getting a phone for free and you should just be grateful, when in reality you do end up paying for it one way or another.

3. The sales assistants don't have any knowledge of their own products. Recently, when I was at the HTC store buying a cover for my phone, the sales assistant saw my phone and remarked "nice ROM you've got there". This instantly won him a lot of goodwill from me, because of the favourable contrast it created with Vodacom employees. In my experience, not only do most Vodacom sales assistant not know what a custom ROM is, the majority of them don't know what Android is, even though Android is currently the best-selling smartphone platform in the world.

4. Their retail business model relies on just-in-time supply chains with very limited stock kept on site. The result of this is that, even though Vodacom has a huge catalogue, and smartphones are now so ubiquitous that every second shop at the mall sells them, the vast majority of retailers have only one model in stock: the every-present Blackberry Curve 8520, which has basically become the Citi Golf of smartphones in South Africa.

Went with my mother today to get her upgrade because she is scared they will talk her into getting something she does not want. Smart ass salesman says Android is a dying platform. ?? Maybe not much is happening in SA as far as android goes because the pre programmed morons that somehow pass as salespeople try pass off whatever they got in stock.