Free ADSL data with Vidi streaming

There is no free lunch... if I'm not using my data then how am I paying my part in the upkeep of the ADSL infrastructure?
 
I've seen this feature on my TP-Link but it is a lot more simplified as it has a separate configuration option for IP-TV, which also prioritizes IP-TV traffic over that of normal ADSL requests.
 
Well done this is great. Now get with the content! Offer new release movies as rental or a rental package pay R100 watch 10 new releases type of thing.

Replace the video store. Get popular series. Your work here is done!
 
now they just have to get a decent app for the samsung tv and I'll subscribe
 
Anyone who understands anything about networking will tell you that this doesn't make any sense whatsoever. The PPTP link still has to be maintained over your ADSL account, so it will still use your ADSL data.
 
Im horribly confused as to how they will zero rate traffic. No matter which method is used to deliver it be it a tunnel or other method it will still measure at your ISP as data consumed.
I stand to be corrected but I cannot see how this is possible.
 
^ i too am wondering how they zero-rate without any special arrangements with the ISPs. Every single bit of traffic into and out of my network has to be accounted for against my account with my ISP so how is this really supposed to work?
 
deweyzeph said:
Anyone who understands anything about networking will tell you that this doesn't make any sense whatsoever. The PPTP link still has to be maintained over your ADSL account, so it will still use your ADSL data.
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Actually it seems you are the one that does not understand.
Normally you connect to your ISP using PPPoE which is supported by all routers.
However many routers also have a PPPoE passthrough feature that can be enabled and the connection established from the pc rather than capturing the details for the connection on the router. You can have more than one ISP connection to different ISP's from different machines connected to the router. So you could browse on you laptop using webafrica and on you pc using mweb at the same time using passthrough on the same router.

Similarly some routers support PPTP which is a protocol similar to PPPoE but designed for VPN. So using pass through you could establish a PPTP connection alongside your PPPoE connection. The PPTP connection is not aware of your ISP and you probably don't even need an ISP account. So in effect they are an ISP that only serves content from their own servers.
 
Munch said:
Actually it seems you are the one that does not understand.
Normally you connect to your ISP using PPPoE which is supported by all routers.
However many routers also have a PPPoE passthrough feature that can be enabled and the connection established from the pc rather than capturing the details for the connection on the router. You can have more than one ISP connection to different ISP's from different machines connected to the router. So you could browse on you laptop using webafrica and on you pc using mweb at the same time using passthrough on the same router.

Similarly some routers support PPTP which is a protocol similar to PPPoE but designed for VPN. So using pass through you could establish a PPTP connection alongside your PPPoE connection. The PPTP connection is not aware of your ISP and you probably don't even need an ISP account. So in effect they are an ISP that only serves content from their own servers.
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I'm afraid it's you who does not understand basic networking. PPTP cannot operate without a working internet connection. PPTP is a VPN protocol. VPN's cannot operate on their own in isolation. It's impossible. They require a working internet (TCP/IP) connection to operate over. Any PPTP connection is going to run over your existing ADSL (or even mobile) connection and will use up your data allocation on that connection.
 
Munch said:
Actually it seems you are the one that does not understand.
Normally you connect to your ISP using PPPoE which is supported by all routers.
However many routers also have a PPPoE passthrough feature that can be enabled and the connection established from the pc rather than capturing the details for the connection on the router. You can have more than one ISP connection to different ISP's from different machines connected to the router. So you could browse on you laptop using webafrica and on you pc using mweb at the same time using passthrough on the same router.

Similarly some routers support PPTP which is a protocol similar to PPPoE but designed for VPN. So using pass through you could establish a PPTP connection alongside your PPPoE connection. The PPTP connection is not aware of your ISP and you probably don't even need an ISP account. So in effect they are an ISP that only serves content from their own servers.
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See you learn something new everyday. Thanks for the explanation.

Does VIDI app 'dial-in' a connection ?
 
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Unfortunately I'm on mobile data :( And so is hundreds of people around me in Fourways I suspect.
 
Munch said:
Actually it seems you are the one that does not understand.
Normally you connect to your ISP using PPPoE which is supported by all routers.
However many routers also have a PPPoE passthrough feature that can be enabled and the connection established from the pc rather than capturing the details for the connection on the router. You can have more than one ISP connection to different ISP's from different machines connected to the router. So you could browse on you laptop using webafrica and on you pc using mweb at the same time using passthrough on the same router.

Similarly some routers support PPTP which is a protocol similar to PPPoE but designed for VPN. So using pass through you could establish a PPTP connection alongside your PPPoE connection. The PPTP connection is not aware of your ISP and you probably don't even need an ISP account. So in effect they are an ISP that only serves content from their own servers.
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I'd agree except the article talks about PPTP and not PPPoE. What you're referring to is also called half-bridge mode if I'm not mistaken... And I think it's what vidi were trying to say - just unsure if they were misquoted or not. Either way a bit of proof-reading by a technical person would have cleared it up.
 
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Munch said:
Actually it seems you are the one that does not understand.
Normally you connect to your ISP using PPPoE which is supported by all routers.
However many routers also have a PPPoE passthrough feature that can be enabled and the connection established from the pc rather than capturing the details for the connection on the router. You can have more than one ISP connection to different ISP's from different machines connected to the router. So you could browse on you laptop using webafrica and on you pc using mweb at the same time using passthrough on the same router.

Similarly some routers support PPTP which is a protocol similar to PPPoE but designed for VPN. So using pass through you could establish a PPTP connection alongside your PPPoE connection. The PPTP connection is not aware of your ISP and you probably don't even need an ISP account. So in effect they are an ISP that only serves content from their own servers.
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I think you're confused. PPTP (Point to point tunneling protocol) is an IP protocol which encapsulates PPP for the purposes of Virtual Private Networking. It requires an IP network to operate. No router can establish a PPTP connection without the presence of an IP network and it definitely cannot establish an IP network bypassing IP Connect facilities of ISPs and Telkoms network.
 
quovadis said:
I think you're confused. PPTP (Point to point tunneling protocol) is an IP protocol which encapsulates PPP for the purposes of Virtual Private Networking. It requires an IP network to operate. No router can establish a PPTP connection without the presence of an IP network and it definitely cannot establish an IP network bypassing IP Connect facilities of ISPs and Telkoms network.
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I don't think he's confused, I think the article author or vidi rep is confused, I think Munch hit the nail on the head.
RPM, can we follow up on this and confirm the confusion with PPTP and PPPoE?
 
Arietans said:
I don't think he's confused, I think the article author or vidi rep is confused, I think Munch hit the nail on the head.
RPM, can we follow up on this and confirm the confusion with PPTP and PPPoE?
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You cannot establish PPTP session using PPPxx passthrough. What is more likely is that they are tunneling another PPPOE connection to connect to a separate IP Connect facility which connects onward to their hosting facility.
 
Now I would like to see a VIDI cost vs DSTV article which includes the price of ADSL
 
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