FTTH possibility - Is this basically a good deal?

People are going to pay a premium to live in a village with fibre. In the UK house prices in areas with good DSL/Fiber are sky-rocketing.
Its happening here as well.

We have firsthand experience regarding this.

Sometimes, body corporates make the new tech voluntary. Then not all owners run cable or fibre when we wire a block. I've seen a flat with a ftth port sell for R50K more than the one next to it that only had Telkom infrastructure.
 
I dont run that site anymore - dropped them to focus more on mobile dev. Give them a call and see if you can sell them some fibre

My house is up at the top of the hill, looking down at that site.

We're trying to get a fibrehood going here - and want to involve that lot too - but it's not easy convincing people that fibre is good when we have one of the best DSL exchanges in the Western Cape in the middle of the suburb. I obviously don't have ADSL at home, but my neighbour tells me he's got 40Mb somethingDSL that almost never goes down. That's not good for business.
 
Vodacom need to take some lessons from Frogfoot / Constantia project on how to run a proper open access network.

The way Constantia gets configured, you can have Cape Connect uncapped on one port of the CPE, WebAfrica capped on another, your Telkom landline on one of the two phone ports and your Cape Connect voip circuit with a normal phone on the other phone port - or run both ports into FXO cards on a voip server. Or have a dedicated port on the CPE just for sip circuits connected to a voip server. Six ports, six different providers - if you want.

This is not how it should be done.
Well at least Vodacom is doing something to get people connected it seems at reasonable (market related) prices. Note, not cheap but reasonable.
 
You need to sell it on resale.

People are going to pay a premium to live in a village with fibre. In the UK house prices in areas with good DSL/Fiber are sky-rocketing.
Its happening here as well.

that is definitely one of the angles im using. FTTH Council has determined an avg of $5000 increase in property value if theres FTTH
 
My house is up at the top of the hill, looking down at that site.

We're trying to get a fibrehood going here - and want to involve that lot too - but it's not easy convincing people that fibre is good when we have one of the best DSL exchanges in the Western Cape in the middle of the suburb. I obviously don't have ADSL at home, but my neighbour tells me he's got 40Mb somethingDSL that almost never goes down. That's not good for business.

theres that massive telkom exchange in the building on steynsrust road - i'm not surprised everyone has great adsl in the area. Pity its such a small area
 
theres that massive telkom exchange in the building on steynsrust road - i'm not surprised everyone has great adsl in the area. Pity its such a small area

That's the one I'm talking about. Massive thorn in my flesh, that thing is...

I have 48 unlit (dark) fibres here.
-34.047036, 18.841839

As long as that exchange works as well as it's working at the moment, they will stay there, doing nothing.
 
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I don't doubt it. I'd definitely pay that much more for a house with the fiber directly installed

What if I told you that this afternoon I got a call from a property manager cancelling a presentation that we are supposed to be doing to a HOA, because they don't think fibre's necessary and "there's nothing wrong with their ADSLs" ?

Or, how about this one? Last year we were approached by a new shop tenant in a building that we'd previously cabled up, but not cabled the shop as it had been unoccupied. He asked us to put fibre into his shop. It was a very short run. The most difficult part was the fact that we had to use ropes down the side of the building to open up some of the junction boxes in the pipes. We ran the fibre and his little Chinese shop soon became the place where half the local Chinese community would conglomerate after hours to watch Chinese TV etc on line. The shop gets robbed a couple of times. The "owner" gets stabbed and his masters decide to close the shop down and redeploy the staff. The fibre obviously goes dead. Last month a new tenant starts shopfitting. I stop by, have a chat with the owner, explain to him what this strange box on the wall is in aid of, he pays me lip service. As soon as I'm out of the door he calls the building owner demanding that they send somebody to remove this "cable" from his shop, immediately.

Looking at the recent work in the wiring closet, it appears Mr Man now has his one telephone line with his 2Mb ADSL.

What hurts me about this one is that two buildings from there, we have a client who's ordered a 100Mb FTTB, but everything's on hold pending way leaves.
 
What if I told you that this afternoon I got a call from a property manager cancelling a presentation that we are supposed to be doing to a HOA, because they don't think fibre's necessary and "there's nothing wrong with their ADSLs" ?

Or, how about this one? Last year we were approached by a new shop tenant in a building that we'd previously cabled up, but not cabled the shop as it had been unoccupied. He asked us to put fibre into his shop. It was a very short run. The most difficult part was the fact that we had to use ropes down the side of the building to open up some of the junction boxes in the pipes. We ran the fibre and his little Chinese shop soon became the place where half the local Chinese community would conglomerate after hours to watch Chinese TV etc on line. The shop gets robbed a couple of times. The "owner" gets stabbed and his masters decide to close the shop down and redeploy the staff. The fibre obviously goes dead. Last month a new tenant starts shopfitting. I stop by, have a chat with the owner, explain to him what this strange box on the wall is in aid of, he pays me lip service. As soon as I'm out of the door he calls the building owner demanding that they send somebody to remove this "cable" from his shop, immediately.

Looking at the recent work in the wiring closet, it appears Mr Man now has his one telephone line with his 2Mb ADSL.

What hurts me about this one is that two buildings from there, we have a client who's ordered a 100Mb FTTB, but everything's on hold pending way leaves.

I can't breathe....
 
Thanks for replies all, looks like I need to do a lot of reading up on FTTH as it looked tempting to me, and my lack of knowledge shows. Granted, if they present this...it will look attractive to others too if they are not clued up...and then we all get ripped off.

dotVIBE - it's not just one complex, apparently this FTTH will be connected to another 3 other complexes so I assume we will all run off this fibre backbone? Dennegeur, Meerhof, Somerset Heights pretty much those 3 at the moment with more maybe on board. Will this impact speed?


Hi, I found this page after endless searching on possible Internet options.... I live in Meerhof and have a woefully bad wireless connection with Gbay.co.za. It's been completely useless for the last few months and disconnect constantly. Speed used to be ok but now at peak times we are talking speed tests of 0.2 down! I urgently need another option and assumed it would probably just be a telkom line and their 10mbps 50gb package they have for about r800/month, but I also hear DSL might be just as bad at times and the line will take forever to get installed. I don't have an existing line here as its a new house and I don't need a landline really apart from for DSL.

Is there anything happening that would cover Meerhof? No one has told me anything about ftth or any other wireless connection here already here.

Any recommendations appreciated.
 
Hi, I found this page after endless searching on possible Internet options.... I live in Meerhof and have a woefully bad wireless connection with Gbay.co.za.

Is there anything happening that would cover Meerhof? No one has told me anything about ftth or any other wireless connection here already here.

There's a huge amount of interference in that area. I have reason to believe that some fool has built an access point directly under GBay's main Strand access point, basically hobbling their site.

As far as I know fibre at Meerhof has come to a standstill. Obviously, I stand corrected.

We can turn your antenna to one of our Strand access points. This should provide immediate relief.
 
I get the impression that's it's not just interference with Gbay. I have used Gbay for 4 years for my home connection and at the beginning it was great (basically 7mbps up and down 24/7) It has gradually got worse over then last 18 months and I think probably just over subscribed. Out of peak times the Connection is far more stable but never more than 2mbps. But between 6pm and 10pm most nights it not even usable. They have no loadshedding backup whatsoever so when Gordon's bay is down we have no internet, and several times they have messed up maintenance and just leave us all off for a week whilst they wait for parts!

I don't want to go to another wireless provider and find its exactly the same to be honest. Any way to trial yours for a week?

I also have a new office building in strand that I get the keys for this week (we currently have another office in same estate) which I need a good connection as the DSL in helderberg industrial estate is also completely rubbish. We currently pay around r3k a month for mwebs fastest Business connection which is a rip off and no better than the cheapest home connection. Speeds are never more than 3.5down and 0.2up! And we also get constant disconnects. Telekom have been called out numerous times and the technician has told me that the problem is the copper lines which desperately need replacing in the estate so it won't get any better soon.
Speed is not really massively important (although nice if we can get 10mbps maybe) but reliability really is, as we have our mail server there
Sonic wireless came to look this week but didn't have an access point looking in our direction so their speed test wasn't good enough. Something you guys might be able to do?
 
I will just put this out there again for the sake of reference.

I am paying R400pm for uncapped fibre 100mbps up and down.
 
People with slow adsl connections now always say "20gb-50gb is enough for me". That is true, with a 2mbps connection. Times that by 10? You will end up using a LOT more than you are now. Just because you can. HD streaming, more downloads etc.

No one upgrades there line, just to keep watching youtube in 320p.
 
People with slow adsl connections now always say "20gb-50gb is enough for me". That is true, with a 2mbps connection. Times that by 10? You will end up using a LOT more than you are now. Just because you can. HD streaming, more downloads etc.

No one upgrades there line, just to keep watching youtube in 320p.

I must say my usage hasn't changed much, and I used to have a 10mbps ADSL that was capped to R200 for 10GB.

I watch lots of youtube yes, but don't actually download much. I perhaps probably use around 50GB at most.

I do play alot more games though.

Provider?

My Body Corporate is contracted with Cybersmart.
 
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