Gaming Pc for 15k

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Basically what the thread title suggests, gimme your ideas/builds :)

Purely gaming orientated build.

This is what I'm at now:

Cooler Master Enforcer - R1,004
-Extra fan: Cooler Master MegaFlow, 200mm - R120
Corsair GS700 - R1,074
MSI Z87-G45 GAMING - R1,921
Intel Core i5-4670K - R2,773
Corsair H55 - R684
Corsair CML8GX3M2A1600C9R, 8GB (2 x 4GB) - R869
GIGABYTE GV-N770OC-2GD - R5,316
OCZ Vertex 3.20 120GB - R1,390
Seagate Barracuda ST1000DM003 - R772
LG GH24NS90 - R172

Total: R16095
 
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I have just got that MSI board with a 4670k. Very happy but remember to budget a good CPU cooler as haswells run hot!

Don't forget to get a SSD..

Is it just for the box? don't need monitors or anything?
 
Needs SSD for sure.

I've got that PSU...might be overkill if you don't plan on xfire/SLI. To give you an idea - my PC (vaguely similar spec) idles at 105W and goes to 255W under load. So 800W might not be necessary. That being said,
for those cards I think 500W is officially required - I wouldn't go below that.
R870 for a 600W corsair...use savings for the SSD.
http://www.rebeltech.co.za/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=30&products_id=1765

Mobo seems a hint expensive? Aren't there cheaper Haswell boards?

I'd really try to get a 8GB stick. Not sure how the market is right now but should be +- possible now. When I bought they were still a bit too expensive but that was a couple of months ago.
 
I have just got that MSI board with a 4670k. Very happy but remember to budget a good CPU cooler as haswells run hot!

Don't forget to get a SSD..

Is it just for the box? don't need monitors or anything?

Just box yes, don't think I can fit a SSD into the budget. If I do get a SSD I want one just for OS so a 60GB/64GB

Needs SSD for sure.

I've got that PSU...might be overkill if you don't plan on xfire/SLI. To give you an idea - my PC (vaguely similar spec) idles at 105W and goes to 255W under load. So 800W might not be necessary. That being said,
for those cards I think 500W is officially required - I wouldn't go below that.
R870 for a 600W corsair...use savings for the SSD.
http://www.rebeltech.co.za/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=30&products_id=1765

Mobo seems a hint expensive? Aren't there cheaper Haswell boards?

I'd really try to get a 8GB stick. Not sure how the market is right now but should be +- possible now. When I bought they were still a bit too expensive but that was a couple of months ago.

The reason I want to get the GS800 is for the ability to go SLI/crossfire in the future.
 
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Then rather downgrade from 4770k to 4670k + SSD. It's a night and day difference with SSD and besides, games don't like hyperthreading?
 
Then rather downgrade from 4770k to 4670k + SSD. It's a night and day difference with SSD and besides, games don't like hyperthreading?

Yeah I'm well aware of the benefits of a SSD, just don't think it's necessary for a gaming Pc, my current one has it and I have my OS on it.

I'm wondering if the i7 4770K really is going to benefit at all over the i5 4670K, if the price difference is really worth it. My thinking is the i7 will last much much longer than the i5 in terms of longevity.
 
just don't think it's necessary for a gaming Pc
I play lots of MP & I'm consistently the first person to have loaded the map (I split MP maps on the SSD, SP maps onto the HDD :D). Depending on the game that has some real advantages in game.

My thinking is the i7 will last much much longer than the i5 in terms of longevity.
Games are GPU heavy - personally I'd be more worried about that gfx than the cpu. xfire might fix that though.

The reason I want to get the GS800 is for the ability to go SLI/crossfire in the future.
Fair enough.
 
Yeah I'm well aware of the benefits of a SSD, just don't think it's necessary for a gaming Pc, my current one has it and I have my OS on it.

I'm wondering if the i7 4770K really is going to benefit at all over the i5 4670K, if the price difference is really worth it. My thinking is the i7 will last much much longer than the i5 in terms of longevity.

I think you will regret going back to a mechanical HDD after using a SSD. Fast loading everything FTW.

If you look at the last few CPUs over the years the i5 have held their own very well compared to the i7 as they are basically identical to the i7 without hyper threading. Look at gaming performance today on old i5 2500k vs i7 2600k, its next to nothing in fact some games run better without hyper threading.

Looking into the future it gets a bit more interesting with the consoles now running on x86 8 core AMD cpus. Games should be able to use 4+ cores much more effectively than they do today. Not so sure about hyper threading though. Perhaps take a look at the AMD 8350? There is a 2 week old one on carbonite with decent mobo going for R3000 odd.
 
Basically what the thread title suggests, gimme your ideas/builds :)

Purely gaming orientated build, require at least 500GB hard drive.

So far I'm thinking:

No idea what case to get, not looking for looks just good cooling.
PSU around R1300 like the Corsair GS800
Intel Core i7-4770K
2x4GB RAM
1TB hard drive
GTX680 or 7970
R1700+- motherboard like the MSI Z87-G43

You don't need a 800W PSU. 600-650W will be more than enough.

Go with a Core-i5 CPU if the rig is mostly for gaming.

Look at the ASRock Motherboards.

There is a lot of money to be saved here that could be used elsewhere.
 
Got an Asrock board myself (Ivy B generation though). Cost like 1.4 and covers everything nicely. I liked the OC setup they have going.

The only weird thing I noticed was that it didn't like booting without a HDD/SSD attached. Weird.
 
The reason I want to get the GS800 is for the ability to go SLI/crossfire in the future.

Also got an overpowered PSU 4 years ago because I wanted to cover myself when I went XFire with my 4890. Guess what? Got a 7970 instead. You probably won't go XFire :o.
 
Also got an overpowered PSU 4 years ago because I wanted to cover myself when I went XFire with my 4890. Guess what? Got a 7970 instead. You probably won't go XFire :o.
I suspect it depends on how connected one is in the 2nd hand market. If you can get a suitable card for peanuts then why not.
 
Ok so we have the following so far:

Intel Core i5-4670K - R2,773
ASRock Z87 PRO3 - R1,803
Corsair GS600 - R870 (should I consider a different model/brand?)

Would the GS600 be enough for that CPU (overclocked) and a high end GPU?


Still need:

Case, something with good air flow
CPU Cooler, closed water loop would be nice
RAM, 8GB+
Hard drive, 1TB or 2TB
SSD, 128GB?
GPU, something beast like 7970, 680, 770?

Also wouldn't getting a high end GPU mean that the CPU would be holding it back?
 
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Just looked at some pricing - holy sht. The exchange rate really crapped on local hardware prices.

The balancing looks about right now (assuming 7970 & 4670). I wouldn't worry about the CPU...focus on HDD/SSD/GPU.

Do not go higher than 8gb. You'll not see an immediate benefit from 16gb and the prices right now are not all that great. 8gb now another 8gb later...thats why I wanted you to buy a 8gb stick not 2x4gb...makes future upgrades easier w/ slots.

HDD...def at least 2TB. You can buy 4TB right now, so even a 2TB is well behind the curve. 2/3TB is the sweet spot right now. Esquire sometimes runs nice specials on hdds.

NB my GS600 recommendation was made before I knew you wanted a possible xfire. I don't have the necessary experience to judge xfire setups tbh. However, I'm inclined to think it'll still be fine though. As I said I've got an actual Watt meter & I've never seen it go above 255Watt. (3570k/7950) with GPU load/idle (Bitcoins) resulting in a 150W delta. I *think* it'll be fine but can't say for sure.

SSD...focus on space rather than speed. I've got a 128 and its pretty thin. Now I know you said you've got one for work but its a whole new ball game once you start loading steam libraries onto it. 256 is stupidly expensive but I'd really try to push for 256 - even if it requires sacrifices elsewhere. If you go for 128 then you'll need this (see SP/MP split above)
http://schinagl.priv.at/nt/hardlinkshellext/hardlinkshellext.html (yes link looks dodge, but IMO its OK).

That mobo you've got there...I don't feel qualified to tell you what to buy, but I can tell you that the one you've got there is definitely wrong. You need double x16 PCIe for xfire setup, not x16 + x1.

>Case, something with good air flow
Still battling with that one myself. From what I've learned though: Pay attention to to GFX length...cases have specific max lengths. Big fans better, but has to be mobo driven else the speed control is nonexistent. Most mobos limited to 2-3 case fans max. Watch fan placement for xfire.

>Also wouldn't getting a crazy awesome GPU mean that the CPU would be holding it back?
No I wouldnt worry about that. Modern Intel CPUs are beasts & all the processing is moving to GPUs anyway (see CUDA etc).

>GPU, something beast
Beast def, but don't buy top of the range - pricing premium will kill you. Lagging behind top of the range a bit is where its at.

>CPU Cooler, closed water loop would be nice
Unless your a hardcore overclocker I'd suggest running with stock fans - just temporarily. After like 1 month you'll be in a much better position to identify which components are running hot. e.g. In my case I found that I got lucky on GPU ASIC draws & CPU too, so I can undervoltage both something wild - thus fixing heat issues without any fancy cooling or sacrificing performance. Point is - wait & see.
 
Ok this is what I have so far:


Cooler Master Enforcer - R1,004
-Extra fan: Cooler Master MegaFlow, 200mm - R120
Corsair GS700 - R1,074
ASRock Z77 Extreme4 - R1,687
Intel Core i5 3570K - R2,689
Corsair CML8GX3M2A1600C9R, 8GB (2 x 4GB) - R869
GIGABYTE GV-N770OC-2GD - R5,316
OCZ Vertex 3.20 120GB - R1,390
Seagate Barracuda ST1000DM003 - R772
LG GH24NS90 - R172


Total: R15093.00

I want to get a CPU cooler with the rest, I want something that will be good enough if I do a good overclock on the CPU, not something overpowered but still pretty good.

I am looking at either the Corsair H40, Corsair H55 or the Antec KÜHLER 620 H2O.
 
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Why ivybridge all of a sudden?

Can't find a motherboard that has a good sli/crossfire config for the price range.

It will cost R318.00 for Haswell.

Intel Core i5-4670K - R2,773
MSI Z87-G45 - R1,921

Wonder if it's really worth it.
 
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It makes zero sense to buy ivy new now. Sure there isn't a massive performance difference between them (probably between 5 - 15%) but the 1155 socket is now dead.

I got the Coolermaster Seidon closed loop water cooler, take a look at it.
 
This is what I'm at now:

Cooler Master Enforcer - R1,004
-Extra fan: Cooler Master MegaFlow, 200mm - R120
Corsair GS700 - R1,074
MSI Z87-G45 GAMING - R1,921
Intel Core i5-4670K - R2,773
Corsair H55 - R684
Corsair CML8GX3M2A1600C9R, 8GB (2 x 4GB) - R869
GIGABYTE GV-N770OC-2GD - R5,316
OCZ Vertex 3.20 120GB - R1,390
Seagate Barracuda ST1000DM003 - R772
LG GH24NS90 - R172

Total: R16095


It makes zero sense to buy ivy new now. Sure there isn't a massive performance difference between them (probably between 5 - 15%) but the 1155 socket is now dead.

I got the Coolermaster Seidon closed loop water cooler, take a look at it.

Thanks I did, but I'm already over budget so I can't go for it.
 
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