Gaming subscription showdown

Cactus

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The biggest issue I encountered is cross-play between Service x and Steam is almost always a mission.
 

Lupus

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But, console players want to buy a game, play it and sell it to get a new game...
No that's PS gamers, Xbox gamers have had game pass for awhile already. We're used to renting our games.
 

Fulcrum29

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but dinosaurs and physical media and ownership :rolleyes:

I like ownership because ownership gives me the right to dispute the product. A subscription gives you the right to dispute the service.

Also, EA Play is cheaper on Steam @ R 239.00/year, they don’t have Pro, but they give you the same rewards as the standard Play.

Legally I don't believe the digital ownership model will go away because legal reasons which may likely end up as a regional legal institution.

Subscribing to a service, distribution and ownership disputes will always impact the product availability. You have distributors, or publishers, which acquires developers like ZeniMax (which is also a distributor) to own the IP, but IP disputes may still exist. Not too many people know, though MS owns Obsidian Entertainment they don’t own every distribution right and I wonder whether this is also the case with ZeniMax?

All I know is legal quarrels won't serve subscription-based users any good, and owners do need to protect their property. Just the way the world works, pending on your ideology.

Having ownership allows me with more rights to exercise.
 

Fulcrum29

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Blame game devs, not platforms. Warzone does cross-play with no issue?

Not really, Steam which most people love and adore have long gated multiplayer behind SteamWorks, it has changed since where developers and publishers have started to leverage their own online services relegating SteamWorks to DRM only (EDIT, and trading cards and achievements).
 

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No that's PS gamers, Xbox gamers have had game pass for awhile already. We're used to renting our games.
That is true. Speaking of which, what environmental impact does physical media have? From my understanding DVD's is not biodegradable, thus purchasing a physical copy of a game is actually inconsiderate and causes environmental damage?
 

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That is true. Speaking of which, what environmental impact does physical media have? From my understanding DVD's is not biodegradable, thus purchasing a physical copy of a game is actually inconsiderate and causes environmental damage?
They also don't last forever you get bit rot.
 

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No that's PS gamers, Xbox gamers have had game pass for awhile already. We're used to renting our games.
Looking at the other thread, the early adopters overwhelmingly prefer the digital version over the disc version of the PS5, it seems that there might be far fewer 2nd PS5 games in circulation compared to PS4
 

Herr der Verboten

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I like ownership because ownership gives me the right to dispute the product. A subscription gives you the right to dispute the service.

Also, EA Play is cheaper on Steam @ R 239.00/year, they don’t have Pro, but they give you the same rewards as the standard Play.

Legally I don't believe the digital ownership model will go away because legal reasons which may likely end up as a regional legal institution.

Subscribing to a service, distribution and ownership disputes will always impact the product availability. You have distributors, or publishers, which acquires developers like ZeniMax (which is also a distributor) to own the IP, but IP disputes may still exist. Not too many people know, though MS owns Obsidian Entertainment they don’t own every distribution right and I wonder whether this is also the case with ZeniMax?

All I know is legal quarrels won't serve subscription-based users any good, and owners do need to protect their property. Just the way the world works, pending on your ideology.

Having ownership allows me with more rights to exercise.
It's more gog than steam with xbgpu for me :coffee:
 

Bryn

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I like ownership because ownership gives me the right to dispute the product. A subscription gives you the right to dispute the service.

Also, EA Play is cheaper on Steam @ R 239.00/year, they don’t have Pro, but they give you the same rewards as the standard Play.

Legally I don't believe the digital ownership model will go away because legal reasons which may likely end up as a regional legal institution.

Subscribing to a service, distribution and ownership disputes will always impact the product availability. You have distributors, or publishers, which acquires developers like ZeniMax (which is also a distributor) to own the IP, but IP disputes may still exist. Not too many people know, though MS owns Obsidian Entertainment they don’t own every distribution right and I wonder whether this is also the case with ZeniMax?

All I know is legal quarrels won't serve subscription-based users any good, and owners do need to protect their property. Just the way the world works, pending on your ideology.

Having ownership allows me with more rights to exercise.

No one is unaware of the advantages of owning standalone copies of games. But the opportunity cost is huge.

For example, Watch Dogs Legion is R1,199 by itself. Or you could pay €15 to enable Uplay+ for a month and finish the game in that time, with access to the most premium version of the game. Same applies to AC Valhalla. You could time your subscription to get both games in a single month.

And considering how sensitive most households are to cash flow, being able to Opex your game costs is a massive deal. In the US you can even include your Xbox console in the subscription - not sure if SA will see anything like that.
 

KleinBoontjie

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//snip

Also, EA Play is cheaper on Steam @ R 239.00/year, they don’t have Pro, but they give you the same rewards as the standard Play.

//snip

Is the playlist on the Steam EA Play, the same as the Origin EA play? As it doesn't come over as it is, if I compare here and on steam itself: https://www.ea.com/ea-play/games-steam

One game I noticed, seems missing on Steam's version of EA play, is Anthem. Or am I wrong?

EDIT: seems it 43 games on Steam vs 200 on Origin : LINK. Look to be all the multiplayer games missing on Steam. Is it still a better buy on Steam?
 
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Fulcrum29

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Is the playlist on the Steam EA Play, the same as the Origin EA play? As it doesn't come over as it is, if I compare here and on steam itself: https://www.ea.com/ea-play/games-steam

One game I noticed, seems missing on Steam's version of EA play, is Anthem. Or am I wrong?

EDIT: seems it 43 games vs 58 : LINK. Look to be all the multiplayer games missing on Steam. Is it still a better buy on Steam?

Is the playlist on the Steam EA Play, the same as the Origin EA play? As it doesn't come over as it is, if I compare here and on steam itself: https://www.ea.com/ea-play/games-steam

One game I noticed, seems missing on Steam's version of EA play, is Anthem. Or am I wrong?

EDIT: seems it 43 games vs 58 : LINK. Look to be all the multiplayer games missing on Steam. Is it still a better buy on Steam?

The list have been updated since launch, I think this one is updated,


Inclusion or exclusion have almost everything to do with distribution rights.

Anthem isn't missed xD The worst preorder I have ever made and I have more hours in that game than in The Division 1.

In time more titles will come to Steam EA Play, and you still require the Origin client which is understandable because ecosystem. I only wish that Steam and EA allows native integration with GOG Galaxy as Epic Games already does.
 
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