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Gartner Analysts Warn That Windows Is Collapsing
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The_Unbeliever
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oh, poor BillG... must come as a shock to him...
It was bound to happen... if one look at the history of computing, one can see that IBM nearly got killed off when client-server computing made mainframes obsolete.
Open Source and open standards is the way to go. Closed, proprietary code, protocols and workings is the stuff of yesteryear.
It was bound to happen... if one look at the history of computing, one can see that IBM nearly got killed off when client-server computing made mainframes obsolete.
Open Source and open standards is the way to go. Closed, proprietary code, protocols and workings is the stuff of yesteryear.
I disagree. OS is still way too young.
Look at the pain of setting up Linux to work properly, the fact that the array of HW that Windoze supports is not there and that your favourite (productivity) apps don't run on it - Autocad, Photoshop, Accounting soft etc.
Take a look at OS software - Blender - its difficult to use, cumbersome, crappy interface. People buy commercial alternatives instead.
Even I came across this. I struggled to find a good effective subtitle renderer and generator for Mac OSX. I tried 3 different OS ones and one trialware and all were pretty much crappy - had unintuitive interfaces which didn't work.
Then I tried a product called Sublime and the trial allowed me to add subs, then render or export them for DVD Studio Pro (DVD authoring app) without
issues - it was all so simple, I could do more work in 5 min on this closed souce app that I couldn't do in 2 hours on the free OS versions.
Yeah I went and paid for the monster - but the thing works and I've saved myself some time and above all I've saved myself some hair and a lot of stress.
MS's fault is that they don't treat their end users as CUSTOMERs. They treat the corporations (media, hardware) as their clients/customers. They introduced DRM into Windoze Vista which means that HW makers who wanted to make Vista capable HW had to licence DRM code from 3rd parties and
M$ itself had to introduce additional performance reducing features into
the hardware requiring memory and CPU upgrades. In both cases the final consumer - the user - had to pay for all these brilliant Vista improvements.
Even people who use XP and buy ATi and NVIDIA hardware solutions,
end up paying for code included in the drivers and on hw components on
the gfx cards which are otherwise not necessary except to protect some
executrons' bonus in Hollywood.
Really a good write up of the BS, that Vista is:
http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/vista_cost.html#cpu
Outdated opinion? I just gave you a perfect example, you give me "outdated opinion". OS software not OSS software (one too many softwares) still
is only good for basic email, webbrowsing and basic wordprocessing.
OK it runs a few games too - some dedicated, some under WINE but
most APPS do not run under Linux, and Linux is not consumer (average person) friendly. Windows and Mac OSX still are.
Anyway I couldn't find a decent OSS subtitle renderer and creator/editor
for Mac OSX which worked like it should. I had to buy one.
I still can't get anything better than Final Cut Pro to edit video or create effects.
Gimp 2 still sucks compared to PhotoShop.
So I dunno, as someone there on Slashdot said, if Linux programers and contributors can focus on making the setup and interface average Joe friendly, so that people consider Linux a viable and user-friendly alternative to Windoze, maybe then companies like Adobe, AutoCad, Corel etc will
start writing for Linux. Linux is too geeky at the moment.
As I said.. out dated opinion. Looks like you have not installed Ubuntu/Linux desktop in the last year.
Most apps I have tried on wine do work... so I think your info is false.
I am seriously trying to find how the heck you came up with this stuff. So it doesnt run some photo edit or movie edit windows based software. Yipeeedooo! Thats less than 0.00000000000001% of the working industry.
"Basic word processing" ? What as opposed to the super super non-basic windows version? The OSS (Open Source Software.. not OS (which is operating sysyem)) version is not "basic"
Install a new version so you know what you are talking about- instead of speading old wives tales. You have no idea about what linux is at the moment PeterCH, and your opinion is unfair. Download a copy, get with the data.
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Hit the nail on the head
d0b33
Honorary Master
You will still have denialists who will stick with Microsoft till the end rather than embrace the OS Enterprise, they will be left behind.
Microsoft can still save itself but it is responsible for it's own demise so far.
Microsoft can still save itself but it is responsible for it's own demise so far.
nocilah
Banned
i just compare firefox usage worldwide to internet explorer usage world wide and although firefox (free and open source) is widely used it is still IE that comes out on top for whatever the reason might be.
http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp
albeit windows will eventually need to evolve and enter some sort of realm of open source. cuz renting modules aint the answer either.
http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp
albeit windows will eventually need to evolve and enter some sort of realm of open source. cuz renting modules aint the answer either.
Linux being "too geeky" is, indeed, an outdated statement, yet unfortunately it is still something your average person thinks. Ubuntu, at least, is just as user friendly as Windows, if not more so. The fact is that it is different, it's like playing Texas Hold `em as opposed to five-card stud; the cards and concept are basically the same, it's just the rules that differ slightly. You cannot say an OS is "too geeky" simply because it operates differently to the OS you are used to. Chances are if one started out on Linux and then tried to move over to Windows, one would have similar difficulties. Like learning to drive a manual after driving an automatic for several years, learning Linux gives you so much more control, yet is quite simple once you get the hang of it.
I only managed two analogies in this post, I was going for three but I guess, as when one stares at the dessert menu; one can't have everything.
Oh wait, mission accomplished
That's because IE is a built-in feature of Windows, so your average mouth-breather uses it simply because they don't know better. IE is the default settings of the browser world, which makes Firefox's statistics all the more impressive (when one takes into consideration that in order to get Firefox, one must actively download and install it).
nocilah
Banned
agreed - but it is a great reflection of the current windows base online and unfortunately that average mouth-breather user will continue to use windows, because as you said they do not know better.
d0b33
Honorary Master
What will surely kill of Microsoft's dominance is when more companies adopt Linux(ubuntu or suse enterprise for e.g.) and workers are only given computers with Linux installed.
As Julius Ceaser once said, "Change takes time". So what would you say about FF penertration in the consumer market to what it was compared to IE about a year ago?
Nothing happens over night (expecially Telkom repairs), and FF is drawing in and closing the market. People are not using IE because its the better choice, they are using it because they dont know any better.
We have a smarter generation following us, just as we are smarter than the generation before us. Thing will change.
You dont say? Do you reckon corel should get involved with all this here linux stuff? Think they would be able to handle it?
Maybe you should do more research before you start throwing names around as well? You almost had me, up to that point. Then it went like *Gun.Bang.Foot*
nocilah
Banned
that i do not deny - hence i stated m$ will need to evolve.
d0b33
Honorary Master
I'm not so sure about that though..
myspace and facebook are the most popular sites on the web, nuff said.
The informed minority are staying informed more easily that's for sure.
I am pretty sure about it. It is happening, people are evolving to be smarter. Perhaps not at the pace a lot of us would like... and perhaps backwards in some places (Utah...Texas....jk).. but it is happening.