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Gas compliance?
- Thread starter Grimspoon
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Thanks! We have a gas fireplace, that looks dodgy to me. But I will insist that we get a compliance.
TheMightyP
Senior Member
Just to clarify.. it's a 'compliance certificate' that you need. Just as with an electrical compliance certificate, or a borer beetle certificate.
Yes that is my understanding.
reactor_sa
Executive Member
I didn't get one. The house had gas stove and gas fireplace with two 48kg canisters.
If it looks ok or you cannot smell it, it is probably fine. LP gas deliberately has an obnoxious smell which you only need a few parts per million to detect. As with any gas appliance, keep the room ventilated since it uses up a lot of oxygen. There are firms in Cape Town who do inspections, mainly for restaurants, etc and also a guy who makes gas safety equipment (SureGas), so I am sure there are plenty in Jhb
I can smell gas by the bottle when I switch on the fire place.
ToxicBunny
Oi! Leave me out of this...
Thats not good at all, you should not be able to smell gas by the bottle...
Yeah something is not kosher.
This is a old installation, probably 20 - 30 years so I am sure they will find plenty wrong with it.
I got the following doing a quick google search on "Gas Compliance Certificate":
In terms of the Occupational Health and Safety Act, 1993, the Pressure Equipment Regulations require that all LP Gas installers undergo specific training and are registered with the South African Qualification and Certification Committee (SAQCC Gas) on behalf of the Department of Labour.
On 15 July 2009 the Minister of Labour published amended regulations to the Occupational Health and Safety Act 1993 in respect of the 'Pressure Equipment Regulations’ (PER). This notice was given in Government Gazette 32395 Notice No. R. 734. The amended regulations came into operation on the 1st October 2009.
These regulations set out the requirements regarding the design, manufacture, operation, repair, modification, inspectionand testing of pressure equipment with a design pressure equal to or greater than 50kPa. In terms of the relevant health and safety standards incorporated into the Regulations under section 44 of the Act, reference to “pressure equipment” includes transportable gas containers, and even hot water geysers.
This amendment places a duty on the homeowner, and requires that an external inspection and leak test are performed by an authorized person after installation or reinstallation and before the commissioning of a gas system.
Regulation 17(3) provides that an authorized person or an approved inspection authority shall issue a certificate of conformity after completion of a gas installation, modification, alteration or change of user or ownership.
The authorized person must be registered with The Liquefied Petroleum Gas Safety Association of Southern Africa (LP Gas).
Before the above-mentioned amendment, a certificate of conformity was not compulsory and only at times required when insuring property. Despite this, some insurance companies did not pay out in cases where an explosion or fire was proven to have been caused by a LP Gas installation with no accompanying compliance certificate/certificate of conformity.
What does the amended 'Pressure Equipment Regulations’ mean and how will they be enforced? These amendments are important as it now places a duty on a homeowner to ensure that he/she is in possession of a Certificate of Conformity/Compliance when gas appliances with permanent LP Gas cylinders are installed on the property and when the property is sold the Certificate of Conformity/Compliance must be given to the new owner of the property.
As with electrical installation and the issuing of an Electrical Compliance Certificate, no reference is made in the regulations as to how it should be enforced. It would be prudent to include this provision in the agreement of sale of the property.
Non-compliance with these Regulations is a criminal offence. Regulation 20 provides that an offender, if convicted, is liable to a fine or to imprisonment for a period not exceeding 12 months.
The certificate must look like this: http://www.gazbusters.co.za/images/certificateofcompliance.jpg
In terms of the Occupational Health and Safety Act, 1993, the Pressure Equipment Regulations require that all LP Gas installers undergo specific training and are registered with the South African Qualification and Certification Committee (SAQCC Gas) on behalf of the Department of Labour.
On 15 July 2009 the Minister of Labour published amended regulations to the Occupational Health and Safety Act 1993 in respect of the 'Pressure Equipment Regulations’ (PER). This notice was given in Government Gazette 32395 Notice No. R. 734. The amended regulations came into operation on the 1st October 2009.
These regulations set out the requirements regarding the design, manufacture, operation, repair, modification, inspectionand testing of pressure equipment with a design pressure equal to or greater than 50kPa. In terms of the relevant health and safety standards incorporated into the Regulations under section 44 of the Act, reference to “pressure equipment” includes transportable gas containers, and even hot water geysers.
This amendment places a duty on the homeowner, and requires that an external inspection and leak test are performed by an authorized person after installation or reinstallation and before the commissioning of a gas system.
Regulation 17(3) provides that an authorized person or an approved inspection authority shall issue a certificate of conformity after completion of a gas installation, modification, alteration or change of user or ownership.
The authorized person must be registered with The Liquefied Petroleum Gas Safety Association of Southern Africa (LP Gas).
Before the above-mentioned amendment, a certificate of conformity was not compulsory and only at times required when insuring property. Despite this, some insurance companies did not pay out in cases where an explosion or fire was proven to have been caused by a LP Gas installation with no accompanying compliance certificate/certificate of conformity.
What does the amended 'Pressure Equipment Regulations’ mean and how will they be enforced? These amendments are important as it now places a duty on a homeowner to ensure that he/she is in possession of a Certificate of Conformity/Compliance when gas appliances with permanent LP Gas cylinders are installed on the property and when the property is sold the Certificate of Conformity/Compliance must be given to the new owner of the property.
As with electrical installation and the issuing of an Electrical Compliance Certificate, no reference is made in the regulations as to how it should be enforced. It would be prudent to include this provision in the agreement of sale of the property.
Non-compliance with these Regulations is a criminal offence. Regulation 20 provides that an offender, if convicted, is liable to a fine or to imprisonment for a period not exceeding 12 months.
The certificate must look like this: http://www.gazbusters.co.za/images/certificateofcompliance.jpg
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Yeah got that as well. Further to that I got this from the agents lawyers site:
The part in bold is the important bit, they obviously didn't put this in the agreement, so once again I have been screwed over. Man, the lessons I have learnt from this awful experience.