Gavin on News24

I have no idea what Xbox Live is but nice one Gavin!
 
yay I'm famous :)

Pity the answer from Microsoft is not what any of us wanted.... but we'll give them another 3 months and whine like babies again... eventually they'll give in just to shut us up :D

Thanks for the nice words as well, it makes it all worthwhile

The article for those who are blocked

news24 said:
Cape Town - Do you have a smart and cost effective way to find out exactly how many Xbox Live gamers there are in SA?

Then maybe you can help Microsoft SA build a case to roll out the subscription-based online gaming Live service here...

"We would love to have this information as it would help to build our business case, but unfortunately no official stats are available.

"If we could find a smart, cost effective and credible means to collect this data, we would love to have the information," Cindy White, Marketing Lead: Entertainment and Devices Microsoft South Africa, told News24.

According to Gavin Mannion, who runs a local website dedicated to console gaming www.lazygamer.co.za, it has been estimated that there are over 30 000 Xbox 360's sold in South Africa and over 2 000 are proven to be connected to Live.

In May Microsoft assured local gamers that the Live service will definitely be launched, but six months down the line gamers are still waiting and word on the web is that it's never going to happen.

However, White said the information is unsubstantiated.

"We recognise the demand for Xbox Live in South Africa but at this point in time there is no confirmation as to when it will arrive."

White stated that it will "eventually" be launched here.

Microsoft SA will also be looking at India, where Xbox Live was recently launched.

"We are delighted that Xbox Live has launched in India (the first of the emerging markets), and we will certainly leverage the learnings, processes as well as engage the teams in India as we continue building our business case."

In the meantime, it's "business" as usual for local Xbox Live gamers - importing memberships and gamerpoint cards via local e-retailers or international sites - usually at a high cost - also using workarounds, like registering a UK address to get access to the service.

The petition launched earlier this year to get Microsoft SA's attention is also still up an running at www.sayyoursay.com.
 
@Geriatrix:

I agree. :(

However . . . I think what she was saying is that they have no acurate way of knowing how many folks are on Live! not just who owns a 360.

@Gav, congrats man.

I just had a thought. If that's their criteria we could sort of take the petition to the next level - put money to mouth. Get everyone who wants in to put up R50 - ie one months live subs, and deliver the sum to Cindy in lieu of our first months subs.
 
I am not sure how many people are happy to throw away money though....

Ideas are in the pipeline though.... If anyone has any more please post them
 
Hows about we organize we have something like a "Live Day" where we rally all Saffer 360 owners to connect to Live at a certain time on certain day and try to get a number that way?
 
Perhaps they should assume that a percentage of consoles sold will use Live. I mean 10% is fair surely .... that's 3000 users :/
 
Perhaps they should assume that a percentage of consoles sold will use Live. I mean 10% is fair surely .... that's 3000 users :/

Actually they have sold +- 13m consoles worldwide and have 8m active Live memberships....

So that's slightly more than 10% :D
 
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