Geewiz Inverter Trolleys

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Hi All

I am looking for backup power for gaming, WFH and a few extras. I am not in a position to install something where I live, so am looking at a trolley.

www.geewiz.co.za

Geewiz 2000VA PURE SINE Inverter Trolley + 2x 100AH LITHIUM Batteries (12 HOUR BATTERY LIFE) KIT - 1200W With LITHIUM Battery (+-6000 cycles) - 2560Wh

GeeWiz PURE SINE 2000VA, 1200W, 24V DC-AC Inverter SIMILAR to INTELLIPOWER 4 or TESCOM 2000 UNIT Includes 2x 100Ah Battery + Steel Cabinet + Wheels All cabling and connectors included Unit Dimensions(l,w,h): 45.5 x 42 x 43.5 cm Intelligent FAN - The fan comes on only when charging and on high...
www.geewiz.co.za www.geewiz.co.za

My PC is the biggest thing I will be powering from it.

Specs:
Ryzen 9 5900x
2x16gb ddr4 RAM
RTX 3070ti
asus b450f mb
1xnvme ssd, 1x sata ssd, 1x hdd
1x MSI Optix G241 24" 1080P 144HZ IPS Gaming Monitor
1x 60hz lg monitor

Any thoughts on this unit that I am looking at and whether there are better deals out there?
 
That 10A charge rate means in 4hrs ypu would only be able to recharge 1KWh ie only 40% of capacity

Most likely that pc is pulling in the region of 450-500w so a 2.5kwh battery may just make it through the 4hrs (with losses )

You can save some battery capacity by limiting the power of the gpu on msi afterburner powr slider

Then you need at least a 25A charge rate to fill it up in a 4hrs time slot

If you only use it for one session at night and don't care for it to take a long time to recharge you can get away with a lower A charge rate

Many of these trolley systems are just an inverter with a battery in a box


I would look at an inverter that can recharge it in 4hrs or that can at least take a panel , cause weekends you may want to cover all sheddings and not being able to get it full will leave you stuck without power like 50% of the 4hrs session
 
feedmeee said:
Hi All

I am looking for backup power for gaming, WFH and a few extras. I am not in a position to install something where I live, so am looking at a trolley.

www.geewiz.co.za

Geewiz 2000VA PURE SINE Inverter Trolley + 2x 100AH LITHIUM Batteries (12 HOUR BATTERY LIFE) KIT - 1200W With LITHIUM Battery (+-6000 cycles) - 2560Wh

GeeWiz PURE SINE 2000VA, 1200W, 24V DC-AC Inverter SIMILAR to INTELLIPOWER 4 or TESCOM 2000 UNIT Includes 2x 100Ah Battery + Steel Cabinet + Wheels All cabling and connectors included Unit Dimensions(l,w,h): 45.5 x 42 x 43.5 cm Intelligent FAN - The fan comes on only when charging and on high...
www.geewiz.co.za www.geewiz.co.za

My PC is the biggest thing I will be powering from it.

Specs:
Ryzen 9 5900x
2x16gb ddr4 RAM
RTX 3070ti
asus b450f mb
1xnvme ssd, 1x sata ssd, 1x hdd
1x MSI Optix G241 24" 1080P 144HZ IPS Gaming Monitor
1x 60hz lg monitor

Any thoughts on this unit that I am looking at and whether there are better deals out there?
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I ran my PC, studio monitors, router, TV, soundbar, fridge and some lights of those two batteries no problems during the 4 hour sessions. Granted I wasn't gaming so PC power consumption would have been less but some of that would have been taken by the class A studio monitors.


Only issue I had is if there was two four hour sessions in a day, there wasn't enough time to recharge fully. If this happened, I would unplug all loads from the unit and let it charge properly overnight.

Where you based? I'm selling the 3kva version of that trolley for a couple of k less than the 2kva version
 
Overkill I reckon. Your average power is probably about 150-300 W for PC, router, and a couple lights for example. Get a smart plug with power metering function and prove me wrong. (Better deal than a kill-a-watt because you get to keep an IoT switch once you're done with metering.)

The ~240 W max charge rate is a bit low for this much battery. But imo this kit has too much battery for this little inverter.

Check out the Mecer SOL-I-BB-M1L. It's ~30% cheaper, 1 kW / 1.2 kWh, fully charges in 3 hours, and has an 820 W MPPT for a solar option. Quiet fan, clean transfer.
 
10a charge rate. That gives me like 480w in 4hours...with this charge rate what's the point of this unit even?

Won't my pc be pulling like 500w+? Why do you think it will do 300w?
 
I have a 1440w Mecer inverter (set to charge at 10A) with 2x 100AH lithium batteries and its able to power the following with no issues for the past 6 months of load shedding

Ryzen 5700x (PBO enabled)
RTX 3080Ti (Power limit maxed to 112%)
16Gb RAM
2 SSDs
2 HDDs
240Hz 1440p monitor
75Hz 1080p monitor
A few LED lamps and USB accessories

Your PC won't draw it's maximum power under normal use and even when gaming your CPU or GPU will limit the other depending on what's happening in game. Peak power draw (measured on a Kill-o-watt) I've seen on my setup during gaming is 400w. If I run Prime95 and FurMark concurrently then I can get it to over 500w but that's an unrealistic scenario.

You'll be just fine with that setup from Geewiz
 
Echo500 said:
I have a 1440w Mecer inverter (set to charge at 10A) with 2x 100AH lithium batteries and its able to power the following with no issues for the past 6 months of load shedding

Ryzen 5700x (PBO enabled)
RTX 3080Ti (Power limit maxed to 112%)
16Gb RAM
2 SSDs
2 HDDs
240Hz 1440p monitor
75Hz 1080p monitor
A few LED lamps and USB accessories

Your PC won't draw it's maximum power under normal use and even when gaming your CPU or GPU will limit the other depending on what's happening in game. Peak power draw (measured on a Kill-o-watt) I've seen on my setup during gaming is 400w. If I run Prime95 and FurMark concurrently then I can get it to over 500w but that's an unrealistic scenario.

You'll be just fine with that setup from Geewiz
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this is useful info. Okay then. But it takes like 20h to fully charge 2x100ah at 10ah per hour...
 
feedmeee said:
10a charge rate. That gives me like 480w in 4hours...with this charge rate what's the point of this unit even?
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No it's a 24 V inverter so double it: 10 A * 24 V = 240 W which is 960 Wh over 4 hours. It will take 10 hours to fully charge.

It's slow relative to the battery, but as I said I think the battery is oversized on this kit.


feedmeee said:
Won't my pc be pulling like 500w+? Why do you think it will do 300w?
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There is no way your PC will draw 500 W on average. It's tempting to assume based on PSU rating, CPU TDP and graphics card ratings but the thing is, nowadays in 2023 those figures are practically marketing gimmicks. In reality everyone is designing for minimum power not least because of mobile applications.

Again get a smart plug or wattmeter but I am 98% sure you will find it draws 10-30% rated power on average.
 
Tomtomtom said:
No it's a 24 V inverter so double it: 10 A * 24 V = 240 W which is 960 Wh over 4 hours. It will take 10 hours to fully charge.

It's slow relative to the battery, but as I said I think the battery is oversized on this kit.




There is no way your PC will draw 500 W on average. It's tempting to assume based on PSU rating, CPU TDP and graphics card ratings but the thing is, nowadays in 2023 those figures are practically marketing gimmicks. In reality everyone is designing for minimum power not least because of mobile applications.

Again get a smart plug or wattmeter but I am 98% sure you will find it draws 10-30% rated power on average.
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Even when gaming?
 
Tomtomtom said:
Again, measure it and let us know, but my guess would be 200-300 W while gaming, so 1.2 kWh would be sufficient for 4 hours.
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Yeah no, playing god of war on my Ryzen 5600, 32GB ram and 3070ti hits 450 when gaming, with the 32" monitor is 45w so total 495w,plus speakers, router it hits 505
 
Lupus said:
Yeah no, playing god of war on my Ryzen 5600, 32GB ram and 3070ti hits 450 when gaming, with the 32" monitor is 45w so total 495w,plus speakers, router it hits 505
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Okay cool well it sounds like you need 2 kWh if you want to game for 4 hours on battery.

OP still needs a watt-meter to confirm. And of course if gaming is not a 4+ hour thing thing the point about average power still applies.
 
Tomtomtom said:
Okay cool well it sounds like you need 2 kWh if you want to game for 4 hours on battery.

OP still needs a watt-meter to confirm.
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Judging by his specs, gaming will be roughly the same
 
Lupus said:
Judging by his specs, gaming will be roughly the same
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I agree, maybe not 200-300, more like 400-500 W while gaming. Still, unless OP needs to guarantee 4+ hours at gaming power I think 1.2 kWh would be enough.

With WFH and basically any other use in the mix, the average power will be lower.

I get 10 hours of "WFH power" from 1.2 kWh.
 
Tomtomtom said:
I agree, maybe not 200-300, more like 400-500 W while gaming. Still, unless OP needs to guarantee 4+ hours at gaming power I think 1.2 kWh would be enough.

With WFH and basically any other use in the mix, the average power will be lower.

I get 10 hours of "WFH power" from 1.2 kWh.
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Yeah I used to get about 6 hours out of my old 12v system I had in the office, my Mecer would easily do 14 hours, as my laptop and monitor are like 90w
 
is there a place that has something better or is the trolley I posted the best in its price range?
 
feedmeee said:
is there a place that has something better or is the trolley I posted the best in its price range?
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Maybe look at the similar system but larger inverter?
www.geewiz.co.za

3000VA Mecer Axpert Pure Sine Inverter + 2x 100Ah LITHIUM Battery Trolley (12 HOUR BATTERY LIFE) KIT - 3000W With LITHIUM Battery (+-6000 cycles) 2560Wh

Inverter: Mecer Axpert Type 3000VA (3000W) PURE Sine Wave Inverter (1200W PWM Solar Controller) Batteries: 2x 100Ah LITHIUM LIFEPO4 Batteries (Hubble/Revov/Securiprod/GeeWiz) Cabinet: Geewiz Black Powder Coated Steel Cabinet + Wheels All cabling and connectors included Unit Dimensions(l,w,h)...
www.geewiz.co.za www.geewiz.co.za

Can go up to 25A. I "think" Geewiz will set it at 20A.
 
c3n0byt3 said:
Maybe look at the similar system but larger inverter?
www.geewiz.co.za

3000VA Mecer Axpert Pure Sine Inverter + 2x 100Ah LITHIUM Battery Trolley (12 HOUR BATTERY LIFE) KIT - 3000W With LITHIUM Battery (+-6000 cycles) 2560Wh

Inverter: Mecer Axpert Type 3000VA (3000W) PURE Sine Wave Inverter (1200W PWM Solar Controller) Batteries: 2x 100Ah LITHIUM LIFEPO4 Batteries (Hubble/Revov/Securiprod/GeeWiz) Cabinet: Geewiz Black Powder Coated Steel Cabinet + Wheels All cabling and connectors included Unit Dimensions(l,w,h)...
www.geewiz.co.za www.geewiz.co.za

Can go up to 25A. I "think" Geewiz will set it at 20A.
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Can't be 20A. Your house plugs will melt
 
First things first
Get a killa watt meter and read your readings
Thwen come back so we can advise

Until then how long is a piece of string?

Cheers


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