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Craig said:
I never said that. You're grasping at straws now. Read to understand, don't read to respond. I have no idea whether that is true or not, it might even be. I'm saying I was expecting more debate around how the figures that you derive your above point from seem to be fudged.
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Show me a statistic that is not fudged then. I can't see why you would have expected more debate on something unless it was specifically brought up...... And it's a side note at that it seems to me.
 
Moosedrool said:
They're also endorsing the gathering of thousands of people in close proximity when it's for a "woke cause" but when talking about any other gatherings they use phrases like biological Time Bomb.

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Guess who will be blamed when the Coronavirus disproportionately kills black people? Yip, those pesky white supremacists in charge of the financial system that are responsible for bank rolling these movements and gatherings.
 
Techne said:
Guess who will be blamed when the Coronavirus disproportionately kills black people? Yip, those pesky white supremacists in charge of the financial system that are responsible for bank rolling these movements and gatherings.
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Trump
 
Cray said:
Perhaps looks at socio-economic data rather than skin colour? Or are you suggesting that black people are genetically predisposed to commit crime or do you think that there are socio-economic and societal factors at work? Do you think a black man raised with a middle class upbringing in the suburbs is also that much more inclined to commit crime than his white compatriots?

Why do people always take the lazy (and racist route) by saying "blacks commit more crime" as opposed to"saying "working class poor people in sh*tty areas with bleak futures commit more crime"
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Because racism makes people stupid.

It is the exact same reason why progressives blame anything and everything on white men.
 
Has it been asked why GF behaved so violently when he was apprehended for tendering a counterfeit $ note in the shop?
He was high on methamphetamine
As cops will tell you, people thus under the influence have 3 to 5 times their normal strength
He did not live the kind and gracious lifestyle that has been portrayed
He had a baggie of heroin on him
Two autopsies reveal a high concentration of drugs in his system (fentynal and heroin)

See: https://www.sciencetimes.com/articl...floyd-died-heart-attack-evidence-fentanyl.htm

And:

And also: https://people.com/crime/george-floyd-death-homicide-says-medical-examiner-latest-report/

And also: https://www.facebook.com/realCandac...e-to-see-him-as-a-martyr-but/273957870461345/

This does not excuse the excessive force applied by the policeman, but may explain why such harsh treatment was deemed to be necessary, at that time

All will hopefully be revealed in court
 
konfab said:
Because racism makes people stupid.

It is the exact same reason why progressives blame anything and everything on white men.
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Completely ignoring race is just as stupid, both are illogical extremes.
 
Simple you act like a twat you get treated like one. Now why the hell can't idiots understand this.
 
chrisc said:
Has it been asked why GF behaved so violently when he was apprehended for tendering a counterfeit $ note in the shop?
He was high on methamphetamine
As cops will tell you, people thus under the influence have 3 to 5 times their normal strength
He did not live the kind and gracious lifestyle that has been portrayed
He had a baggie of heroin on him
Two autopsies reveal a high concentration of drugs in his system (fentynal and heroin)

See: https://www.sciencetimes.com/articl...floyd-died-heart-attack-evidence-fentanyl.htm

And:

And also: https://people.com/crime/george-floyd-death-homicide-says-medical-examiner-latest-report/

And also: https://www.facebook.com/realCandac...e-to-see-him-as-a-martyr-but/273957870461345/

This does not excuse the excessive force applied by the policeman, but may explain why such harsh treatment was deemed to be necessary, at that time

All will hopefully be revealed in court
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#MethLivesMatter
 
chrisc said:
Has it been asked why GF behaved so violently when he was apprehended for tendering a counterfeit $ note in the shop?
He was high on methamphetamine
As cops will tell you, people thus under the influence have 3 to 5 times their normal strength
He did not live the kind and gracious lifestyle that has been portrayed
He had a baggie of heroin on him
Two autopsies reveal a high concentration of drugs in his system (fentynal and heroin)

See: https://www.sciencetimes.com/articl...floyd-died-heart-attack-evidence-fentanyl.htm

And:

And also: https://people.com/crime/george-floyd-death-homicide-says-medical-examiner-latest-report/

And also: https://www.facebook.com/realCandac...e-to-see-him-as-a-martyr-but/273957870461345/

This does not excuse the excessive force applied by the policeman, but may explain why such harsh treatment was deemed to be necessary, at that time

All will hopefully be revealed in court
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He could have had a thousand bags of heroin on him, it is not the place of the police to be Judge Jury and executioner simple.
 
The GBM is back with the same racist diatribe that keeps getting his clones banned - time for the MOD's to step in AGAIN.

Ex-Defense Secretary James Mattis, a warrior revered by his troops, told Americans they must come together without the President

Military leaders condemn Trump over protest response

President Donald Trump is facing an unprecedented revolt from the elite corps of ex-military leaders and presidents over his brazen response to mass protests and inflaming of racial divides.

In a true Washington bombshell on Wednesday evening, former Defense Secretary James Mattis, a warrior revered by his troops, told Americans they must come together without the President.

"Donald Trump is the first president in my lifetime who does not try to unite the American people -- does not even pretend to try," said Mattis, who has kept silent since resigning in 2018.

"Instead he tries to divide us. We are witnessing the consequences of three years of this deliberate effort. We are witnessing the consequences of three years without mature leadership," said the retired Marine general in a statement, criticizing Trump for threatening to deploy regular troops to quell unrest in a flagrant threat to US political stability.

The statement will come as a body blow to Trump, who although he latterly turned against his ex-defense secretary, idolizes generals and loved referring to Mattis as "Mad Dog."


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Obama calls for police reforms, tells protesters to 'make people in power uncomfortable'
 
EADC said:
He could have had a thousand bags of heroin on him, it is not the place of the police to be Judge Jury and executioner simple.
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Unfortunately it is not simple. Far from it.
It has not been proved that there was intent to cause fatal harm
 
EADC said:
4 cops on him and when he said he could not breath certainly did not stop, its still culpable homicide.
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Neva had to deal with a raging meth addict have ya? 4 is the bare minimum...... for some of em tazers don't even get a reaction....
 
chrisc said:
Unfortunately it is not simple. Far from it.
It has not been proved that there was intent to cause fatal harm
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8 minutes bra, 8 minutes. Why don't you try kneel on the ground for that long and report back on your experience of how much you were able to assess whether what you are doing might put somebody's life at risk during that time.
 
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