George Floyd death

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saturnz said:
How about you stop trying to rationalize police brutality with made up speculation.

That 14 year old boy was assaulted by a police officer way before George Floyd died, he was not looting as you stated
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Then it's irrelevant and I don't know what it's doing in this thread. Every video I've commented on was on the assumption that it is relevant and not an old video or fake news.

Obviously police brutality is wrong. We all agree.
Obviously looting and rioting is wrong. We all agree?
 
Moosedrool said:
Or maybe it's a short girl?
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Seems like.


The Atlanta Police Department confirmed that the uniformed persons with riot shields pictured in the video were members of the Georgia National Guard, and both entities confirmed that the video depicted only adult members of the latter organization who were “all of eligible age to join.”


A Georgia National Guard spokesperson affirmed that “the rumors of underage Georgia Guardsmen are false,” and that “The rumors of us having child Soldiers to assist local law enforcement in protecting lives and property is false.”
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South Africans outraged by police killings in US, but silent about those at home

The murder of George Floyd in Minneapolis has sent a wave of grief and anger around the world. The US was built on African slavery and indigenous genocide and remains a fundamentally racist country.
As the great African-American academic Cornell West has pointed out, the system of electoral politics in the US has been unable to achieve the sort of reforms that could finally put an end to even the crude racism of the police. As West points out; the election of a black president did not end the pervasive racism of the US police.


It is wonderful to see people around the world, including here in South Africa, expressing support for the struggle against systemic racism in the US. But the US is not the only country in which black people are regularly subject to police harassment, violence and murder.

The situation is at least as bad in Brazil and Palestine. In South Africa we may have a black government but the police kill poor black people at a terrifying rate. A few weeks into the Covid-19 lockdown at least 12 people had been killed by the police.

A number of people have asked why South Africans are generally unconcerned about the regularity and impunity with which the police here murder unarmed, poor black people.


Often the same people who are grieved and outraged by what happens in the US are entirely silent when poor black people are killed by the police here at home.

Surely the affirmation that black lives matter should include the lives of black people in South Africa. Surely, we should know, after the Obama presidency, that having black people in political power does not necessarily reform racist systems.

During Obama’s term in office police violence against black people in the US, the mass incarceration of black and Latino people, and drone strikes around the world, continued unabated.

But while huge numbers of South Africans respond with righteous outrage when the police kill another innocent person in the US, and there is a small but vibrant South African movement in support of Palestine, South Africans generally do not take racialised forms of state violence at home seriously.

The reasons for this are not entirely clear. Have we perhaps internalised a colonial devaluation of the lives of our own people? Or is this a question of a residual faith in the ANC despite its long record of violence, including lethal violence, against poor black people? Is it because our public sphere is dominated by the middle classes but it is largely poor people who are murdered by the police, usually with impunity?

Whatever the reason for the general lack of outrage at lethal forms of state violence in South Africa we cannot continue to claim any sort of moral high ground when police murders of our own people pass without comment. It simply makes no sense for us to be outraged by police murders in the US but silent on the regular police murders at home.

If we could bring all the anger that we feel about the situation in the US home we would have a real chance of being able to start to reform policing at home. And reform is urgently needed. It is, literally, a matter of life and death.
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South Africans outraged by police killings in US, but silent about those at home

Often the same people who are grieved and outraged by what happens in the US are entirely silent when poor black people are killed by the police here at home.
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iDOL said:
Folks who agree with murder and masquerade it as self defense. Two similar incidents in the last 4-6 months.

The self same people who would be happy to have refugee children separated and ill-treated cause it suits their agenda.

Where is your disdain there , your outrage?

Or is it inconvenient for you as it goes against your insular views of what is right and wrong?

Folks who agree and side with bigoted dotard’s.

Delighted that the world is not allowing them to reinforce their backward views and give themselves pats on the back.
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Where is your outrage iDOL?
 
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All this violence is going to harden the resolve of both the police and non looters , expect the violence to escalate if these mobs continue with their demolition of the cities.
Daily reminder - police action may have contributed to his death , these riots are contributing to deaths , you cant protest death with creating more death.
 
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