George Floyd death

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So the protesters are calling for the disbanding and defunding of the police now. So what will they rely on Batman for law and order now?
 
rambo919 said:
Exactly, automatically assuming that someone revising something is doing so for mischief is ridiculously paranoid.
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"The civil war was not fought over slavery" is a sentence typed an posted minutes ago, but go on...
 
rambo919 said:
Theres always loosing your temper and doing something stupid, cops are human too not robots.

That does not mean he should not be punished for the results of what he did. All that is for the courts though.
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Something stupid that ended someones life.
Jabulani22 said:
You appear to have a reading issue.
I have already condemned the cop and Floyd , both were at fault .
Your insistence on not understanding is saying a lot.
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You say that in one post, and in the next 20 you insist that the cop didn't cause his death.
 
I am not really following this issue, cause, 'Muricans being morons is not really interesting to me, but did I read correctly here that the cop took 8 minutes or more to kill Georgie Boy?
 
greg0205 said:
"The civil war was not fought over slavery" is a sentence typed an posted minutes ago, but go on...
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It was not the genuinely principle reason for it no. The real reason was the same for Texas seceding from Mexico.... exactly the same reason. A distant aloof government that makes decisions for the locals on their behalf.
 
rambo919 said:
@buka001

If you bothered to actually ask I could have told you I don't morally support the South for anything they did other than shoot fort sumpter into leaving after asking nicely did not do the trick.

But noooooo you rant and rave about slavery as if it actually mattered to what I said because all you have is one-sided propaganda. You cannot believe anyone can evaluate something without picking a side because you yourself are incapable of real objectivity it seems.
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I don't care what you think you believe.

The fact that you are arguing on a false premises for the causes for the Civil War, which have been debunked by all legitimate Civil War historians is something which I will address.
 
Craig said:
Something stupid that ended someones life.


You say that in one post, and in the next 20 you insist that the cop didn't cause his death.
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The cop "contributed to" it , along with the meth ,fentanyl and his health conditions.
Unless you got evidence that the cop forced them drugs into him and caused his health conditions ?
Contributed to ,as in played a part but not wholely responsible for.
 
Craig said:
If he resisted before putting him into the car, why take him out again? The fact that you are this insistent on the cops innocents says much more than you realize.
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He is obviously gaslighting you.
 
rambo919 said:
Yes, stupid things killing people happens all the time.
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Let's take that doctor that was killed, the guys breaking in did something stupid, then the guy maybe resisted (conjecture) and they stabbed him. Do you agree it was a stupid mistake (maybe it was young kids, I don't know) or do you agree that it's completely criminal and that they should've been able to foresee the consequences of their action? Just like maybe this cop should've foreseen that keeping your knee with your whole body weight on a persons neck could kill him?



Jabulani22 said:
The cop "contributed to" it , along with the meth ,fentanyl and his health conditions.
Unless you got evidence that the cop forced them drugs into him and caused his health conditions ?
Contributed to ,as in played a part but not wholely responsible for.
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Mainly caused, not only contributed. Or mostly responsible if you want, at the minimum.
 
buka001 said:
I don't care what you think you believe.
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Clearly, you are much more of an expert on what I believe than I am :ROFL:

The fact that you are arguing on a false premises for the causes for the Civil War, which have been debunked by all legitimate Civil War historians is something which I will address.
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Nonsense, you disagree with my opinion and instead of staying rational attack me with emotionalisms as if that kind of bullying is virtuous in some way.

By your definition I'd wager no historian that disagrees with your view is "legitimate" because of this disagreement.
 
Pegasus said:
Excellent point

https://twitter.com/x/status/1269927535120470017
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I'd like to imagine a world where young minds, perhaps 20 or 30 of them at a time, could congregate is rooms... let's call them "classrooms" for argument's sake... and there, someone knowledgeable about the topic... let's call them "teachers" for argument's sake... could tell them about the history of slavery and it's impact on modern society.

You know, Instead of how we learn history now, from the record of our emotional responses to marble or copper slabs in the middle of traffic circles.

How about you?
 
Craig said:
Let's take that doctor that was killed, the guys breaking in did something stupid, then the guy maybe resisted (conjecture) and they stabbed him. Do you agree it was a stupid mistake (maybe it was young kids, I don't know) or do you agree that it's completely criminal and that they should've been able to foresee the consequences of their action? Just like maybe this cop should've foreseen that keeping your knee with you whole body weight on a persons neck could kill him?





Mainly caused, not only contributed. Or mostly responsible if you want, at the minimum.
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1st part , intent is the key.

2nd part , coroner said "contributed to" , unless your examination of the body was more thorough ?


Edit , I like the part where you conflate commiting a crime to police duties , lol
 
Craig said:
Let's take that doctor that was killed, the guys breaking in did something stupid, then the guy maybe resisted (conjecture) and they stabbed him. Do you agree it was a stupid mistake (maybe it was young kids, I don't know) or do you agree that it's completely criminal and that they should've been able to foresee the consequences of their action? Just like maybe this cop should've foreseen that keeping your knee with your whole body weight on a persons neck could kill him?
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When someone accuses someone of being stupid in a burst of anger.... how exactly does he also accuse him of being completely rational?

Not all mistakes are accidental.

People that plan and execute something like what happened with the doctor do so with premeditation, yes its stupid but that's not all it is. Here the malevolence clearly overrides the stupidity.

If the cop had specifically planned to hill the junkie then it would be a different matter.
 
rambo919 said:
It was not the genuinely principle reason for it no. The real reason was the same for Texas seceding from Mexico.... exactly the same reason. A distant aloof government that makes decisions for the locals on their behalf.
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Hmmm....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cornerstone_Speech

The Cornerstone Speech, also known as the Cornerstone Address, was an oration given by Confederate Vice President Alexander H. Stephens at the Athenaeum in Savannah, Georgia, on March 21, 1861,[1] delivered extemporaneously a few weeks before the Civil War began with the Confederate attack on Fort Sumter.

"Our new government['s] foundations are laid, its cornerstone rests, upon the great truth that the negro is not equal to the white man."

]ts foundations are laid, its cornerstone rests upon the great truth, that the negro is not equal to the white man; that slavery—subordination to the superior race—is his natural and normal condition. This, our new government, is the first, in the history of the world, based upon this great physical, philosophical, and moral truth
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But yeah, not the genuine principle reason at all.... :rolleyes:
 
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