Getting Windows 7 or just getting the theme

[kaisterkai]

Hey~

I would just like to ask..

my computer is:

Intel P4 3.0 GHz
1Gb Ram
450W
160Gb HD
GF 6600

Do you think it will be able to run window 7?

Well currently i'm using the window 7 theme.. and it sometimes lags a bit.. but it's fine most of the time..

Should i change? or should i stick with window XP?

Thanks

 

[Dimpie (COMPUTEK)]

this should give an idea

http://windows.microsoft.com/systemrequirements

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/downloads/upgrade-advisor

 

[wikk3d88]

im running windows 7 on an Acer laptop, Celeron 1.6Ghz, 512mb Ram and 60GB HD... its a tad slow but very very stable
should run on your machine well

 

[f4ntom]

It rocks ~~

 

[killadoob]

Push your memory up to 2gb or more and then windows 7 will run nicely.

Running a windows 7 theme is not nearly the same as running windows 7.

 

[PeterCH]

Hey~

I would just like to ask..

my computer is:

Intel P4 3.0 GHz
1Gb Ram
450W
160Gb HD
GF 6600

Do you think it will be able to run window 7?

Well currently i'm using the window 7 theme.. and it sometimes lags a bit.. but it's fine most of the time..

Should i change? or should i stick with window XP?

Thanks

Why do you want to run Win 7?

Unless you install a pirate version, you'll be spending about R2000+. Do you want to spend that much for eye candy?

Do you need software that only works on Win7 or Vista?

If I were you I wouldn't bother. You can prolly buy WindowsBlinds for a hundred or so Rand or use a free theme. I just think it's a waste of time.

If you want a good Win 7 experience and have more cash, just buy a new machine. It will come with OEM Win 7.

 

[killadoob]

Pete go troll elsewhere bud.

 

[Grouter]

Why do you want to run Win 7?

Same reason I prefer Windhoek to Budweiser. One's a beer, the other's just, well, foul-tasting alcoholic used dishwater.

 

[Kaufies]

Peter actually makes a good point. Windows is ridiculously expensive. Rather buy a new PC with 7. I had no intention of upgrading and then I bought a new PC. Now I'm so glad I have 7

 

[killadoob]

You think they give you windows free when you buy a new pc? . Why spend 6k on a new pc when you can spend 2k on windows and not need to upgrade.

You and peter are saying windows is expensive so buy a 6k system and you get windows 7(which is not free) lol. You are advising him to spend 6k instead of 2k? Seems a bit odd.

 

[Kaufies]

Lol, definitely not free but I'm sure it's a lot cheaper.

 

[Asha'man X]

Hey~

I would just like to ask..

my computer is:

Intel P4 3.0 GHz
1Gb Ram
450W
160Gb HD
GF 6600

Do you think it will be able to run window 7?

Well currently i'm using the window 7 theme.. and it sometimes lags a bit.. but it's fine most of the time..

Should i change? or should i stick with window XP?

Thanks

As mentioned, with the extra gig of ram, your system will be semi useful still. You will love all the new features built into it, stuff that a theme pack can't replicate on XP.

 

[Ekhaatvensters]

I'd also stick to XP, without the skin. It will run a lot faster, I can see the difference on my home PC's.

Windows 7 will run okay but you'll definitely see the difference in just browsing folders on that PC, not worth it.

 

[PeterCH]

You think they give you windows free when you buy a new pc? . Why spend 6k on a new pc when you can spend 2k on windows and not need to upgrade.

You and peter are saying windows is expensive so buy a 6k system and you get windows 7(which is not free) lol. You are advising him to spend 6k instead of 2k? Seems a bit odd.

LOL. "Don't troll Pete." You're the troll yourself.

I advised him not to upgrade. If he must have Win 7 and want a good experience, buy a new machine - it will come with OEM Win 7 anyway. OEM Win 7 licenses that makers like Dell, Acer, Mecer etc get are much cheaper then DSP licenses you would buy in a shop. Besides, he wants Win 7 badly and with those specs he'll be disappointed - he should buy a new machine if he wants a good experience. It makes no sense to upgrade otherwise for productivity's sake. He'd need a new HDD and more RAM and then he'll still be stuck with a slow for Win 7 yet fast for XP CPU. Of course if he can pirate a copy of Win 7 - go for it, just that I wouldn't bother. But if he must have the eye candy - well R2K for eye-candy is excessive, IMO.

You Win 7 fanboys like killadoob are so INSECURE you have hissy fits when someone points out some common sense issues. Maybe you should marry a copy of Win 7, doob.

 

[rwenzori]

If he must have Win 7 and want a good experience, buy a new machine - it will come with OEM Win 7 anyway. OEM Win 7 licenses that makers like Dell, Acer, Mecer etc get are much cheaper then DSP licenses you would buy in a shop.

A DSP ( Delivery Service Product ) licence is very similar to an OEM licence and is only ( legally anyway ) supplied with a new machine ( not component ). You are maybe thinking of the Retail licences.

 

[PeterCH]

A DSP ( Delivery Service Product ) licence is very similar to an OEM licence and is only ( legally anyway ) supplied with a new machine ( not component ). You are maybe thinking of the Retail licences.

You can easily purchase the DSP version online with a single jumper, power cable, screw or mouse as component. The versions of Windows which come with branded machines however, eg Dell or Acer, are much cheaper than these. They're included in the price but you're not paying MS R3000 for Windows the way Windows Retal ver works in a shop, you're really paying a couple hundred bucks. I expect that if he wants a legit version of Win 7, he'd end up buying a DSP - which may not be
100% legit, but MS would have no way of proving that. Unless he runs a business they won't raid him. If he's a home user, they wouldn't expect him to keep the till slip that proves he bought it with some qualifying component. The Retail Ver would be much more. So less reason to upgrade unless he really needs it.

MS has disabled Win 7 upgrades for XP even in Retail/Upg versions. It therefore makes less sense to buy an Upg ver over OEM/DSP.

 

[rwenzori]

You can easily purchase the DSP version online with a single jumper, power cable, screw or mouse as component.

I expect that if he wants a legit version of Win 7, he'd end up buying a DSP - which may not be 100% legit, but MS would have no way of proving that.

No doubt, but the seller runs the risk of losing their license. One example of the conditions:

Please Note: Under the amended Microsoft DSP license agreement, System Builders are licensed to distribute desktop operating systems with a fully assembled computer system or a non-peripheral hardware component. Application and server programs may only be distributed to an end-user accompanied with a fully assembled computer system.

A fully assembled computer system means a computer system consisting of at least a central processing unit, a motherboard, a hard drive, a power supply, and a case.

 

[PeterCH]

No doubt, but the seller runs the risk of losing their license. One example of the conditions:

Has this been amended recently? DSP ver of Windows are a dime a dozen and I've seen the 'jumper' thing so often it's not funny.

Also they mention non-peripheral internal components, so you could buy the DSP fully legitimately with a stick of RAM or a new HDD, both of which this person will need if he wants to install the bloated Win 7 on his current computer.

Finally, the licensing is the seller's problem. How many legitimate sellers have been shut down for selling Windows DSP with a jumper or power cable?
I doubt any have. M$ will probably focus its efforts to find pirate installers - guys who load the same license of Windows on all systems they sell. Once they liquidate all such sellers, they can move on to guys who are bending the rules yet still making them R2-3K per sale. Steve Ballmer will throw more chairs.

Thankfully I don't have this issue as I don't see myself upgrading to Windows 7. I'll get a new Toughbook in 3 years with it or Win 8 preloaded.

 

[ProAsm]

Windows 7 is actually Windows Vista part 2, it even shows on the M$ version number.
Xp was 5.x - Vista is 6.0 and Win7 is 6.1 so its a gag to sell the Vista product.
I installed Windows 7 Professional a month ago and when you first start you cannot but help fall in love with it as it is VERY fast, and I mean very fast in comparison to XP, BUT........ in boot up and loading only.
Most your applications actually run slower, cursor operations in big documents are pathetic to say the least, and whatever you do don't try and add an additional Xp hard drive so you can dual boot as Win7 will throw all its toys out the cot if it sees another hard drive with another operating system and it will start crashing and hanging up that it makes Win98 look like a Sunday afternoon picnic.
I thought I was going crazy, and have now reformatted the drive 4 times with a whole new install but within a week, all the crap starts again.
You remove the second Xp drive and everything runs smooth again.
As for the Xp-Mode they brag about, it still does not see the graphics card which renders that another useless selling point.
Many of your older games will lockup or crash and at the end of the day its R2400 odd down the drain, maybe around SP2 it might be a consideration.
It has many plus points like the networking facilities are great and so are many other things, but if you are a serious gamer (new and old) or a developer, you may be in for a disappointment.
I am still using it now with a single hard drive only as I want to get to know it well, but I think unless M$ bring out a serious Xp compatible mode, I will be switching back to Xp in the end.

 

[kaisterkai]

Thanks

Hey Guys

Thanks for all your advises.. (by the way.. i'm a female.. as i was reading all of you just assumed i was male.. )

mm.. i can get the "fake" copy of win 7.. but i just wasn't sure whether my computer will be able to run it nicely or not..

Well.. i'll tell you guys what i think i will do..

I'm going to partition my hard drive into 2.. install win 7 on the other half.. and see how it runs on my computer.. and if it'll too slow.. i'll uninstall it..

Do you guys think it's a good idea?

THANKS for all the help!!

Merry X-mas!!!

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