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Geoff.D
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@Zoomzoom you are absolutely right, pun intended. There is far too much effort and time being spent on trying to debate the rights and wrongs of whatever the scientists are measuring and concluding and getting wrong or right. We should be focussing on what we know and can do something about.
Take a few examples of what has already happened when governments and NGOs get stuck into believing their own BS.
1. STOP chopping down trees.
We are destroying the ability of nature to deal with the increases in CO2 in the atmosphere, instead of focussing on reducing our contribution to the increase of CO2 .
OUTCOME. A switch to the production of increased volumes of plastic for packaging is just one unwanted outcome of that focus.
2. Cut down on plastic bags. This led to a change in the rules here, a tax on plastic bags being sold ostensibly to fund a recycling project to recover plastics. Where is this plant? What is happening with those taxes? Has the production of plastic bags reduced?
There is was a conference on the go in PE where the scientists spent hours arguing where all the plastic in the oceans is coming from only to finally agree that the plastic comes from land fills . Really! Why did they need to research this? We all know where it came from. Why did they not spend the time trying to convince governments to go and start a project to get rid of the plastic in the oceans?
3. Tyres are creating a huge issue. So a tax was introduced that we all pay when we buy tyres. It is supposed to fund a recycling plant for recycling synthetic rubber. Where is that plant? Anyone know? What is happening with all the tyres?
They are still where they have always gone into landfills.
4. Reduce carbon in the atmosphere. Outcome a carbon tax is introduced. What is happening with that money? Was it not supposed to go to funding renewable energy?
The only reason governments love the climate change proponents is because they see tax dollars coming out of the process. They care squat about climate change. It will be someone else's problem in the future.
Anymore examples anyone? I have run out of vooma due to a shortage of breathable air ....
Take a few examples of what has already happened when governments and NGOs get stuck into believing their own BS.
1. STOP chopping down trees.
We are destroying the ability of nature to deal with the increases in CO2 in the atmosphere, instead of focussing on reducing our contribution to the increase of CO2 .
OUTCOME. A switch to the production of increased volumes of plastic for packaging is just one unwanted outcome of that focus.
2. Cut down on plastic bags. This led to a change in the rules here, a tax on plastic bags being sold ostensibly to fund a recycling project to recover plastics. Where is this plant? What is happening with those taxes? Has the production of plastic bags reduced?
There is was a conference on the go in PE where the scientists spent hours arguing where all the plastic in the oceans is coming from only to finally agree that the plastic comes from land fills . Really! Why did they need to research this? We all know where it came from. Why did they not spend the time trying to convince governments to go and start a project to get rid of the plastic in the oceans?
3. Tyres are creating a huge issue. So a tax was introduced that we all pay when we buy tyres. It is supposed to fund a recycling plant for recycling synthetic rubber. Where is that plant? Anyone know? What is happening with all the tyres?
They are still where they have always gone into landfills.
4. Reduce carbon in the atmosphere. Outcome a carbon tax is introduced. What is happening with that money? Was it not supposed to go to funding renewable energy?
The only reason governments love the climate change proponents is because they see tax dollars coming out of the process. They care squat about climate change. It will be someone else's problem in the future.
Anymore examples anyone? I have run out of vooma due to a shortage of breathable air ....
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