Gnome at a crossroad - user revolt?

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This whole revolt started with Linus making public his feelings toward the new Gnome 3, this opened the floodgate for people to start an all out revolt and it seems the fight is far from over.

The ball is now in the developer's court, they now have to tread lightly and make sure they either listen to the people or loose all their market share to other options.

http://www.datamation.com/open-source/the-gnome-3-meltdown.html

Deep down I wish Linus would have had a personal 1-on-1 with the devs and discussed his grievances. He should know better than to just outright attack a project, his word carries much weight whether it is founded or not...
But that is just Linus on the other hand.
 
Linus has always pushed KDE over gnome and even when kde 4 was released, he opted to go for xfce rather than gnome. So what does he want? for them to go back to the way it was so that he can carry on ignoring it. Besides, Linus Torvalds is hardly the kind of user Gnome shell and unity are targeting.

Personally I love the changes (unity, cant comment on gnome shell, but from what I understand they are quite similar.) yes they have their weaknesses, but its version 1. When linux was this old it had 10,000 lines of code and was used by like 10 people.
 
I love Gnome 3 and Gnome shell, took some getting used to but its definitely a step in the right direction for me. Everything just seems so much more "together" than with Gnome 2. Must say its still pretty unstable though, I'm using Fedora 15 and some programs crash quite regularly (Iike nautilus will crash when I close it).
 
I dunno, I think Gnome 3 pwns Unity.

Gnome 3 rocks, i'm using it on my Ubuntu desktop and Unity is on my netbook.

:D

But I'm not Linus so nobody really cares.
 
ave said:
lol

what is so much better about gnome 3
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Notifications I can actually click on :D

I don't know I just like it more than I like Unity...

Personal preference. Can't really put my finger on it.
 
hawker said:
I dunno, I think Gnome 3 pwns Unity.

Gnome 3 rocks, i'm using it on my Ubuntu desktop and Unity is on my netbook.

:D

But I'm not Linus so nobody really cares.
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I do not like the new Gnome 3 look and feel and I absolutely loathe Unity, so if someone pressed a gun to my head and forced me to choose I will not live long.

However, I have found Gnome 3 easier to navigate and use (than Unity) and it feels more polished and complete. The fact that you almost cannot change anything is what rubs me the wrong way.
 
I've played around with both Unity and Gnome3, and I like both of them. I would also have like a few things different - integrated support for Thunderbird and Pidgin, but that's no major issue.
 
I'm interested to see what the changes to Unity will be for the next version of Ubuntu.
 
I have read a bit here and there on Mark commenting on Unity and from what I read it seems to me (this is a IMHO moment) that they are totally ignoring all the criticism they received from the public. Other than better coding "under the bonnet" from what he said it seems that it is going to stay the way it is.

Now this is only interviews and a lot can change, but this had me a bit worried, the moment you ignore users in the FOSS world is the moment you start being counter-productive. You cannot please everyone but there must have been issues raised by millions of users that would warrant a look into.

It is almost as if he came over as "we know what is best for you, just you wait and see", and that is a mistake IMHO.
 
MyWorld said:
You cannot please everyone but there must have been issues raised by millions of users that would warrant a look into.
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Yep, ultimately they are the ones who are going to use the software. The larger the user base, the larger the pool of potential supporters, whether it be financially or with skills.
 
People there is always XFCE or KDE for those of you looking for a replacement. I think XFCE is going to get a lot of new users.
 
Personally I was a WindowMaker fan then moved to Blackbox, but both died out and I was forced to chose between Gome 2 or KDE 4.0 at that time. I decided to go to Gnome because of the whole dock app that you can use at the bottom.

Currently using KDE but hate it as it makes me feel like its a Windows wannabe. I also hate Gnome 3 and Unity as both did not take into account people running with multiple monitors.

Talk about stuck between a rock and a hard place. Yes I know about XFCE but I dont know how it will last when all apps get pushed to the Gnome 3 look and feel.
 
Elimentals said:
Personally I was a WindowMaker fan then moved to Blackbox, but both died out and I was forced to chose between Gome 2 or KDE 4.0 at that time. I decided to go to Gnome because of the whole dock app that you can use at the bottom.

Currently using KDE but hate it as it makes me feel like its a Windows wannabe. I also hate Gnome 3 and Unity as both did not take into account people running with multiple monitors.

Talk about stuck between a rock and a hard place. Yes I know about XFCE but I dont know how it will last when all apps get pushed to the Gnome 3 look and feel.
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mint?
 
ave said:
mint?
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They have to decide which way they are going, I have not followed it closely but they should have announced it already or will in the not too distant future, mainly which DE they are going to support.

I love Mint on the Netbook, here's hoping they do not let me down!
:)
 
MyWorld said:
They have to decide which way they are going, I have not followed it closely but they should have announced it already or will in the not too distant future, mainly which DE they are going to support.

I love Mint on the Netbook, here's hoping they do not let me down!
:)
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Looks like they are going the debian way so expect to gnome3 and everything else but unity.
 
MyWorld said:
They have to decide which way they are going, I have not followed it closely but they should have announced it already or will in the not too distant future, mainly which DE they are going to support.

I love Mint on the Netbook, here's hoping they do not let me down!
:)
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the last I heard they keeping their current DE- probably because they received so much support from all the unity defectors- its worth it to them.
 
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