Godsell blasts garnishee orders

Some investigators found that 15% of workers in shafts at platinum mines received virtually no money on pay day, because everything was paid over to money lenders.
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I still fail to see how this is supposed to be the mine's fault.
 
evilstebunny said:
I still fail to see how this is supposed to be the mine's fault.
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Agreed. If the miners was diligent, and worked instead of striking, then this would not happen.

Instead they go on merry strikes, and, as a result, had to borrow money for food etc.

Chicken. Home. Roost.

On the flip side of the coin, the lender(s) is also at fault for not checking for existing loans etc before granting new loans.
 
The_Librarian said:
Agreed. If the miners was diligent, and worked instead of striking, then this would not happen.

Instead they go on merry strikes, and, as a result, had to borrow money for food etc.

Chicken. Home. Roost.

On the flip side of the coin, the lender(s) is also at fault for not checking for existing loans etc before granting new loans.
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Well as long as the lenders know they can get the wages attached, what's the risk to them? :p
 
The_Librarian said:
Agreed. If the miners was diligent, and worked instead of striking, then this would not happen.

Instead they go on merry strikes, and, as a result, had to borrow money for food etc.

Chicken. Home. Roost.

On the flip side of the coin, the lender(s) is also at fault for not checking for existing loans etc before granting new loans.
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And then they have to strike again to get more money to pay off the loans they took out to finance the previous strike. As I've often said, they keep striking for obscene increases before they pay off the previous glorious union victory over the capitalist pigs, and just work themselves further into debt.
 
evilstebunny said:
I still fail to see how this is supposed to be the mine's fault.
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It is not the mine's fault, but you want your staff to be productive and not harassed about debt and then still get nothing on payday. Your staff then will become unproductive.
 
Ianf1 said:
It is not the mine's fault, but you want your staff to be productive and not harassed about debt and then still get nothing on payday. Your staff then will become unproductive.
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You're an employer not a babysitter :p

Edumacation failure is the root cause here.
 
Ianf1 said:
It is not the mine's fault, but you want your staff to be productive and not harassed about debt and then still get nothing on payday. Your staff then will become unproductive.
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And so bad decisions by workers becomes the employer's problem :rolleyes:
 
Slootvreter said:
And so bad decisions by workers becomes the employer's problem :rolleyes:
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Ultimately yes, you want staff who are productive and receive the bulk of their earnings at month end. This is about managing your staff for maximum productivity and so why not help them were you can.
Business should be about working together and not fighting between staff and management.:whistle:
 
Ianf1 said:
Ultimately yes, you want staff who are productive and receive the bulk of their earnings at month end. This is about managing your staff for maximum productivity and so why not help them were you can.
Business should be about working together and not fighting between staff and management.:whistle:
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Interesting, how would you help workers? Education?
 
Slootvreter said:
And so bad decisions by workers becomes the employer's problem :rolleyes:
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Ianf1 said:
Ultimately yes, you want staff who are productive and receive the bulk of their earnings at month end. This is about managing your staff for maximum productivity and so why not help them were you can.
Business should be about working together and not fighting between staff and management.:whistle:
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And if the workers still cause grief for you, as employer, by going on strikes, causing you to lose extra contracts or income?

Let them suffer the consequences of their own actions.
 
The_Librarian said:
And if the workers still cause grief for you, as employer, by going on strikes, causing you to lose extra contracts or income?

Let them suffer the consequences of their own actions.
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Which ultimately means you as empoyer will suffer. What a sad stafe of affairs. :(
 
Slootvreter said:
Interesting, how would you help workers? Education?
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Education, get information from the original judgement to enforce the "in duplum rule". Help the staff start a stokvel. And the hardest is get them not sign cellphone contracts.
ISCOR used to have a staff association years ago which helped get goods in bulk and pass that on. It was called IEMAS I see they are still going things like that help.
 
Ianf1 said:
Education, get information from the original judgement to enforce the "in duplum rule". Help the staff start a stokvel. And the hardest is get them not sign cellphone contracts.
ISCOR used to have a staff association years ago which helped get goods in bulk and pass that on. It was called IEMAS I see they are still going things like that help.
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I'm surprised companies as big as those in the platinum sector don't offer personal financial education to workers. But I suspect it's a problem of keeping up with the Shabalalas which is very prevalent in this country and not limited to low wage mine workers.
 
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