Golf mk6 gti or something else?

OK - not sure about the MPS version but if you look at the normal ones you see the following (worst to best):
carkwnmco2kw/lco2/l
VW Polo 1.46313214445103
Mazda 3 1.67714514948106
Honda Jazz 1.4731271335295
Hyundia i20 1.4741361335395
Opel Corsa 1.4741301295392
Hyundia i20 1.6911561405788
When it comes to efficient normally aspirated engines Mazda and VW are your worst options.

Why the table
I thought we talking top end of the range
 
the mps has 190kw...
Which it gets from a turbocharger. Sure, it ups the kw/l to 83 and the co2/l to 97 but it costs R57k more than an Astra 1.6T with the same figures. Although, that being said, the Astra has 150kw less than the Mazda so in terms of efficiency the turbocharged Mazda is pretty good ;)
Why the table
I thought we talking top end of the range
Just illustrating that when talking normally aspirated Mazda is pretty weak. Turbo charged is much better.
 
Which it gets from a turbocharger. Sure, it ups the kw/l to 83 and the co2/l to 97 but it costs R57k more than an Astra 1.6T with the same figures. Although, that being said, the Astra has 150kw less than the Mazda so in terms of efficiency the turbocharged Mazda is pretty good ;)

Just illustrating that when talking normally aspirated Mazda is pretty weak. Turbo charged is much better.

None of this made sense to me?
 
OK, let me put it this way : Mazda and VW sucks if it ain't got no turbo.

Does that makes sense?

I agree to a point. VW has great diesels (turbo), generally crappy petrol engines.
I found the mazda 2 engine quite decent, the mazda 3 engine was overly slack in a body that big.

btw, in that post i didnt understand, I am almost certain the kw's you mentioned were wrong.
The astra has 150kw less than the mazda? that would mean the astra had 40kw...
 
btw, in that post i didnt understand, I am almost certain the kw's you mentioned were wrong.
The astra has 150kw less than the mazda? that would mean the astra had 40kw...

Only feels like 40kW. They've actually been dyno'd at 32.6kW. :D
 
OK, let me put it this way : Mazda and VW sucks if it ain't got no turbo.

Does that makes sense?

Not like Opel's NA engines are that great. Anybody remember the 75 kW Corsa "GSi"?

The kings of natural aspiration are Honda and BMW.
 
The Mazda2 is a little better, but only if you look at the 1.5 model. Its 51 kw/l is on par with the similarly overpriced Honda Jazz but its co2/l value of 90 is between the Corsa 1.4 and i20 1.6 which sell for R30k less.
 
btw, in that post i didnt understand, I am almost certain the kw's you mentioned were wrong.
The astra has 150kw less than the mazda? that would mean the astra had 40kw...

LOL! I meant look at the NM instead of the KW. Well that means the Astra is a much better deal considering the price.

Only feels like 40kW. They've actually been dyno'd at 32.6kW. :D

:D my slip up = funny

Not like Opel's NA engines are that great. Anybody remember the 75 kW Corsa "GSi"?

The kings of natural aspiration are Honda and BMW.

Well if you look at the results in the table things seem to have changed - Honda sucks almost as bad was VW and Mazda while Hyundai and Opel seems to have the lead.
 
LOL! I meant look at the NM instead of the KW. Well that means the Astra is a much better deal considering the price.



:D my slip up = funny



Well if you look at the results in the table things seem to have changed - Honda sucks almost as bad was VW and Mazda while Hyundai and Opel seems to have the lead.

NA engines are fine for entry level/bottom of range market
When it comes to performance cars, they are not as fuel efficient and they are the major polluters (CO2 emission)
That is why most manufacturers are moving towards turbos and superchagers, although few exception is a rule
 
So....after testing cars for over 2 months...
It all doesnt matter...the job (which i mentioned in the OP was conditional for this purchase), after 3 rounds of interviews and basically being told its a guarantee for me....went to a BEE guy.

Lets hope an increase is on the cards and i still get to own something special
 
thats sucks big time

maybe next time bud

yeah thanks....was told its a sure thing...got myself all excited for the car...
anyways, like i said, increases are coming up, they better make me smile :)
 
So....after testing cars for over 2 months...
It all doesnt matter...the job (which i mentioned in the OP was conditional for this purchase), after 3 rounds of interviews and basically being told its a guarantee for me....went to a BEE guy.

Lets hope an increase is on the cards and i still get to own something special


Oh lawdy...why didn't you tell us that you weren't BEE compliant in the first place? We wouldn't have become all excited for you! :(
 
That's crap - would have made a nice x-mas gift to yourself. How does your selection list (top 5) look at the moment ?
 
That's crap - would have made a nice x-mas gift to yourself. How does your selection list (top 5) look at the moment ?

yeah, cant tell you how bleak i am, maybe its for the best, who knows what awesomeness is around the corner

1. renault RS
2. GTI
3. 320d
4. nearly new ST (because its pretty cheap and i still love em)
5. nearly new wrx
 
Best of luck then, and in your case, don't settle for anything less than #1 (cause #2 is so boring!) ;)
 
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