Goodbye Internet Explorer? New Microsoft web browser Project Spartan confirmed

The problem with Internet Explorer is Trident and sadly it seems Microsoft is keeping that.

They would be far better off by dumping Trident and adopting WebKit.
 
I'm not sure WebKit would be better. After all, ElGoog forked WebKit into Blink to get better performance in Chrome. And Apple still dicks around with it in Safari.

The Trident engine is solid and performs superbly. What's hobbled IE is the legacy support. By cutting all that out MSFT has a chance to unleash Trident, and I don't think people will be disappointed.

Paul Thurrott has this to say (he's a Chrome user): So Maybe Windows 10’s Spartan Isn’t Going to Suck. This was before yesterday's Redmond event.
 
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j4ck455 said:
I guess I should not be surprised that none of the three "significant features" is security. I expect that people will soon realise that the new Spartan browser is really IE 11.5.
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You clearly never saw the demo or read up on it
This is generation change, nothing like IE11, MS I have pulled many punches yesterday. A new tree never new leaf!
 
ChocolateBadger said:
I seriously doubt this browser is new and more just the next iteration of Internet Explorer but for obvious reasons Microsoft has killed that brand.
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I seriously know you talking with zero research on the matter
IE stays for now too
Have a look at the demo then try comment again
 
Paul_S said:
I just hope for the sake of all web developers and end users that Microsoft decide to get any new browser features involving web code, ratified via W3C first.
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Actually, MS is the only company waiting for W3C right now... Chrome and FF are "ahead" in features in a big part because they're going ahead and implementing draft specs and their own solutions. This is what made IE6 a big problem, and MS is being really careful not to make the same mistakes twice.

The reason that the new WhatsApp only works on Chrome is because it uses un-ratified HTML5 stuff in it. If this all sounds horribly familiar, then you were on the web when IE6 was its most popular :)
 
I still don't believe they MS will ever be a contestant for the browser war again.

Between Safari, Chrome, Opera and Firefox I don't see Microsoft ever standing a chance?
 
Thor187 said:
I still don't believe they MS will ever be a contestant for the browser war again.

Between Safari, Chrome, Opera and Firefox I don't see Microsoft ever standing a chance?
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http://arstechnica.com/information-...ws-xp-slides-chrome-growth-stops-in-november/

When you look at an average of all the stats, IE is still very much relevant, and comfortably in the lead.

Chrome is mostly gaining marketshare at the expense of Firefox nowadays, FF is the endangered species.
 
Frikkenator said:
Why the hell would I want notifications from my friggin browser and why wasn't I given a choice in the matter?!

And then of course the fact that they moved the brilliant google talk to friggin browser as well. I had to format my PC this week and see now that Gtalk isn't available for download anymore, so I jumped ship to Skype.
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You can set Chrome to not run in the background, so the process that runs in the tray will disappear. If Chrome didn't pull up and run something like twenty instances of itself by doing this, I wouldn't have a problem with it.

Google Talk still works, but you have to either get it from OldApps, or find a torrent of it. Then use App Passwords inside your security settings to sign into your account and make it functional. My brother still uses GTalk but he can't do things like upload files and the like anymore. Skype Chat is probably the closest thing to matching the functionality it used to have.

I also use IE quite regularly. On my netbook it's much faster than Chrome or Firefox and uses less battery power. On my desktop its mainly the browser I use for streaming things like the Windows 10 event and Twitch. I'm slowly adjusting back into it because I'd like to use a Windows 10 Phone and being able to sync browser bookmarks and history will be nice. I know I can do that with Opera as well, but the new Opera just doesn't feel the same.
 
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Arthur said:
I'm not sure WebKit would be better. After all, ElGoog forked WebKit into Blink to get better performance in Chrome. And Apple still dicks around with it in Safari.
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Google's decisions was political not technical.

Arthur said:
The Trident engine is solid and performs superbly. What's hobbled IE is the legacy support. By cutting all that out MSFT has a chance to unleash Trident, and I don't think people will be disappointed.
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While IE's development team seems to have woken up from a long slumber recently, the point remains that aren't their efforts better spent improving an open standard rather than competing for no real gain.

The answer is of course political just like Google's was.
 
Thor187 said:
I still don't believe they MS will ever be a contestant for the browser war again.

Between Safari, Chrome, Opera and Firefox I don't see Microsoft ever standing a chance?
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The biggest advantage MS has is that their browser is shipped with each copy of windows. So by default they have a large user base because a lot of people are not clued up enough to install something else.
 
Frikkenator said:
Chrome even has a friggin notification centre in the system tray now. Why the hell would I want notifications from my friggin browser and why wasn't I given a choice in the matter?!
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There is a do not disturb option. Use it... They beat Windows to a notification center and now Windows 10 includes one also.

Frikkenator said:
And then of course the fact that they moved the brilliant google talk to friggin browser as well. I had to format my PC this week and see now that Gtalk isn't available for download anymore, so I jumped ship to Skype.
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You don't even need to use the Chrome app. You can do video calls within Chrome without the need to install anything. The new Chrome app with chat heads is nice btw.
 
Arthur said:
Standing a chance at what? Being a "contestant"? In market share?
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elvis_presley said:
http://arstechnica.com/information-...ws-xp-slides-chrome-growth-stops-in-november/

When you look at an average of all the stats, IE is still very much relevant, and comfortably in the lead.

Chrome is mostly gaining marketshare at the expense of Firefox nowadays, FF is the endangered species.
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This below:

furpile said:
The biggest advantage MS has is that their browser is shipped with each copy of windows. So by default they have a large user base because a lot of people are not clued up enough to install something else.
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Thor187 said:
This below:

The biggest advantage MS has is that their browser is shipped with each copy of windows. So by default they have a large user base because a lot of people are not clued up enough to install something else.
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Yes exactly, you said they "don't stand a chance" but that's just not true... when people upgrade to a new Windows, it'll go back to IE by default (I assume), and as IE gets better, less and less people will move away from it.

The real point is they aren't losing market share any more. FF is. They're the one that "don't stand a chance" going by the data.
 
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elvis_presley said:
Yes exactly, you said they "don't stand a chance" but that's just not true... when people upgrade to a new Windows, it'll go back to IE by default (I assume), and as IE gets better, less and less people will move away from it.

The real point is they aren't losing market share any more. FF is. They're the one that "don't stand a chance" going by the data.
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Chrome, Firefox, IE


Quick which one is the best browser ?

You can answer by going

1
2
3

Or

1 and 2 tie
3
 
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