Goodbye Sentech

LoneGunman

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After a couple of months of not using Sentech at all (I bought the IBurst modem and am currently on the 30 day contract method) - I decided to get rid of the energy sapping problem I have had since around April/May 2004.

I faxed a simple 'I am cancelling' letter to Sentech, citing a number of job tickets, including one which has been open since May. I pointed out that the service was clearly not what I was led to believe it was, and that given the promises made by Pigvirus Smith that a) the service was having problems and b) it would be fixed - it is now abundantly clear that nothing has changed,
despite many months and evidentiary data supplied by me to demonstrate that their service is continuing to be inadequate, slow and utterly not what they had advertised it as being.

I also stated that I'd be returning their modem at my earliest opportunity.

(I'm not even interested in waiting for any 'investigation' on their side, instead - their modem will be dropped off at their HQ, and I'll get a receipt for it, to prove that it has been returned to them - and I'm utterly uninterested in waiting to 'hear' what they might say, or even in letting them come and fetch their modem.)
I'm happy to take the time to manually give it back to them. This is - as the Americans put it - a form of 'closure' for me.

I then went past my bank, and stopped the debit order, deciding that I'm simply not willing to give Sentech even the chance of taking any more money from me. (This is the only weapon left to me as a ripped off consumer. Namely: deprive them of money. Nothing else matters to Sentech, in the larger capitalist scheme of things. Just money. Therefore - make sure they receive no more from me. Ever.)

It felt good.

And both I and my bank will be watching to make sure that there's no attempts to take any further money from me. (Naturally I will lay a criminal charge of theft and/or fraud, if there are.)

I'm not interested in even discussing this with them, and any communication they want to have with me - they will need to do via registered mail or fax. (Not that I have a fax number)

As a matter of interest, and perhaps you didn't know this - but this is why they require that cancellations need to be faxed - as no other form of communication is legal, binding, or proof of anything, in a court of law.
Emails are not suitable evidence in local court. Neither are telephonic conversations.

My faxed letter was remarkably polite and to the point, given the systematic lying, fraud and insultingly non-existent service that Sentech has provided me with, for the better part of 2004.

No more.

We'll see if they accept this, or if they try to wave their pseudo legal 'contract' around in an attempt to frighten me into giving them money.

(As they have delighted in using their fuzzy legal technicalities to lie repeatedly to me about the state of their network, their service, and their contractual obligations to me - I will only respond to communications from them which can subsequently be proven, in a court of law, to have taken place. So any further steps they want to take with me, are going to cost them money. At every step of the way.

I've already given them far too much of my money, time, patience, and energy.

I'm now done with Sentech. I don't get frightened at 'lawyers letters' or threats of legal action, and I have more than sufficient capital, legal counsel, and a willingness to use both, to ensure that it becomes prohibitively expensive for Sentech to do anything other than accept my cancellation and be very happy that I'm no longer a customer of theirs.

So.

Goodbye you Orcs of the Sentech helpdesk (and you few good guys, that I've dealt with along the way) who are trapped and working within the vile organisation known as 'Sentech'.

And hello fellow 30-day-notice users of IBurst

*the Orcs at IBurst, swallow nervously*

:)
 
:cool:

Sentech blew a golden oppertunity to deliver us from Telkom and become every ZA net users knight-in-shining-armour. The good will they squandered will cost them dearly in the times to come.
 
Couldn't have said it better hArTh - they had a good thing going. If only they listened to their customers and stopped blaming them for everything that went wrong.

Anyway, it's water under the bridge... welcome to the mob LGM :)
 
After careful considerations I have decided that Sentech is just not worth it. At this stage I have more ticket numbers than the amount of days I have been on-line. I have been off-line already ± 4 days since I have signed up for Sentech 2 weeks ago. During this two weeks I had an average downloading speed of ±3, 06 Kb/sec, which is far below of what I’ve expected of a broadband. With my previous dial-up connection I used to download ± 1, 25 GB a weekend, thus ± 6,4Kb/sec. My conclusion therefore is that I would most probably download less per month with Sentech than with my previous dial-up connection.

I agree that Sentech has various other advantages above the average dial-up connection, but for me those advantages are not sufficient to warrant my R650, 00 per month.

I would really appreciate it if any of you can assist me with my cancellation letter, because I have no intention to pay the 75% for the duration of the 2 years contract.

Yours truly,

Chico
[email protected]

:cool:
 
Chico,

I'm sure LoneGunman can whip one up for you. It may be a little long and verbose, but I'm sure that they'll get the message.;)

Seriously though, the first thing to do is to cancel your debit order.
 
arf9999 said:
...It may be a little long and verbose, but I'm sure that they'll get the message.;)...
Yes about that, I thought I was badly word-bloated, no offence LG but you must give your editing team a lot of work cutting out the redundancy, having said that I like your writing style ;)
 
Gentlemen, my opinion. If you can do better, please do…. :) I would really appreciate it.

In the thread “Feedback to Sentech on the 128 Mywireless service and speeds” we are actually discussing the option of compiling a standard romeo /draft example of such a cancellation letter.

I would appreciate your comments on this idea, since I would like to obtain something of this nature.

Yours truly,

Chico
 
arf9999 said:
Chico,

I'm sure LoneGunman can whip one up for you. It may be a little long and verbose, but I'm sure that they'll get the message.;)

Seriously though, the first thing to do is to cancel your debit order.

Hehe I'm sure if Chico is prepared to courier a ream of A4 paper to LGM he would be happy to oblige!

Lonegunman = Sappi's favourite client :D
 
hArTh said:
Hehe I'm sure if Chico is prepared to courier a ream of A4 paper to LGM he would be happy to oblige!

Lonegunman = Sappi's favourite client :D

Just be careful the fax LGM writes doesn't suddely vanish while sending ... - oooh, low blow there ! :D

LGM, so it's a case of once burnt still not shy with you ? - switching from one troublesome wireless ISP to another ? - I'm noting a similar trend in the iBurst forums to what happened with MyWireless, it's almost like deja-vu. :rolleyes:
 
bb_matt said:
I'm noting a similar trend in the iBurst forums to what happened with MyWireless, it's almost like deja-vu. :rolleyes:

I agree thats why I have decided to go the adsl 384 route. Istalling on the 27th. 2 weeks after applying.

To me it appears as if Iburst will go exactly the same way, and I don't like paying for some companies testing. I will be quite happy with adsl for the next year.

Meanwhile they (sentech) have told me my contract ends at the end of this month and they will come and collect the modem, but just to make sure, debit order has been cancelled, and I will deliver the modem to them.
 
Robone said:
...and I will deliver the modem to them.
Being the weird person that I am, I would actually invoice them R70 for delivering their modem to them :D

On the subject of iBurst - yes, sadly it is starting to look like WBS have no clue - this even before they launch, I going to email the MD of WBS & have a chat with him - perhaps that will get me somewhere, if not maybe I will have to get HomeDSL384 on 30d.n. & some extreme lightning protection measures...:rolleyes:
 
Robone said:
but just to make sure, debit order has been cancelled, and I will deliver the modem to them.

Don't stress Robone - the only thing to stress about is your bank account AND when you cancel, if you've payed for a month, make sure you get it.

After that, let them worry about the modem - it's not your indaba.
So long as they don't accidentally debit your account, screw them.

NB !!! - when you cancel, phone each day for a week AFTER your cancellation has been approved to make sure that it's gone through - IOW, wait to hear whether your cancellation has been accepted, then phone a few times to double/triple/quadruple check.

The modem is there problem.

They collected mine 6 weeks after the cancellation - there was no way in hell I was going to drop that paperweight of after having had such sh1te service !
 
And here I thought that u all is going to assit me with my cancellation leter...
 
Well, if you have a lisp we can still help you !

Here's a rough draft :-

Dear Sentech,

Your service is so bad I almost died from heart attack.
I expected to have 24/7 broadband, but instead, had to saw my leg of with a blunt knife.
Your not very good.

Please cancel my subscription,
Bill.
 
I'll ignore all the 'verbose' comments - mainly coz they're completely right :P

Step one. Cancel your debit order. Pay whatever the amount is necessary via your bank, and keep an eye to make sure Sentech don't simply alter the final figure.

(The debit order blocking stays effective for THREE MONTHS only. Therefore, keep an eye in the future for any attempts by Sentech to remove monies after the three month blocking period.)

Step two.

Write them a short letter saying in effect:

To Whom It May Concern

I am hereby cancelling my sentech contract.
I refer you to Job Ticket number(s) ____________
which detail the ongoing absence of anything approaching
the promised service which I was led to believe I would receive.

(If relevant)
I refer you also to the promises made personally to me
by (fill in Sentech executive's name(s) here) on (date) - when they
stated that there was indeed a problem with the network, and it would be fixed.
To date, this has not been honoured.

(If relevent)
You will note that in Job Ticket ___________ there is considerable evidence
showing that I have had nothing but consistent problems, slow speeds, and a
clearly inadequate service from Sentech for the last (fill in length of time here).

Given the prolonged inability of Sentech to honour its contractual obligations and/or services which were promised to me prior to entering into a contractual agreement.
(Such promises were stated by

EITHER/OR
a) (fill in sentech executive's name here) on the occasion of our meeting on (date)
EITHER/OR
b) (Sentech itself, in a variety of public media and advertisments, as being 'broadband' 'fast' 'reliable' and other terms implying and suggestive of a quality of service which I have failed to see any sign of, with Sentech.)

Therefore I am regretfully cancelling my contract with Sentech, effective immediately.

(EITHER/OR)
I will be returning Sentech's modem at the earliest opportunity.

I will appreciate it if Sentech could retrieve its modem from me, at its earliest convenience.

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THEREAFTER - BE ADVISED:

The only communication which are valid, legal and 'real' between Sentech and yourself, is either via Fax or registered mail. Phone calls are not legal or binding, and neither are emails.

Therefore any further communication which might occur, from Sentech, must be limited to fax or registered mail - nothing else is legally relevant or binding on you - despite what someone at Sentech may say. Any communication via phone, can be ignored - or else you can simply request that they put it in writing and fax or send it to you via registered mail. (And if there is any telephonic conversation, simply state that you cannot accept, agree with, or deny whatever is being said by them, until they've put it in a written format that is legally acceptable, and that you can read and consider at your convenience.)

As Sentech have played hard and loose with the letter of the law, with regard to its 'contract' and its legal obligations towards its customers, its only fair that customers observe the same bloody minded strict letter of the law, when extricating themselves from Sentech.
 
in actual fact e-mail, SMS can be considered a legal and binding document according to the ECT bill of South Africa which was inacted in 2002. I might be wrong in the case of contracts but I know for transactions and agreements it is the case, however in the case that you are using it and the company you are aiming this torward its fair enough. A nice and effective cancellation fax... (*saves for the future)
 
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