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Google quietly dumps Oracle MySQL for MariaDB
Summary: Linux distributors have been moving from Oracle's MySQL to its popular fork, MariaDB - and now Google is also moving to MariaDB.

By Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols for Linux and Open Source | September 13, 2013 -- 21:37 GMT (14:37 PDT)

Despite being the most popular open-source database management system (DBMS), Oracle's MySQL has been sinking into trouble. Major Linux distributions like Red Hat and SUSE, are switching it out for its fork, MariaDB. Major Websites, such as Wikipedia, have also replaced MySQL with MariaDB. Now, adding insult to injury, Google is moving to MariaDB from MySQL.

As first reported by The Register, Jeremy Cole, a Google senior systems engineer announced the news at the Extremely Large Databases (XLDB) conference in Stanford, CA as part of his MySQL presentation (PDF Link). A Google spokesperson said, "Google's MySQL team is in the process of moving internal users of MySQL at Google from MySQL 5.1 to MariaDB 10.0. Google's MySQL team and the SkySQL MariaDB team are looking forward to working together to advance the reliability and feature set of MariaDB."

This news wasn't surprising to Google open-source watchers. Sources at Google had said for some time that Google was moving to MariaDB. Earlier this year, Google assigned an engineer to work on MariaDB.

The Register reported that Cole said, "We're running primarily on [MySQL] 5.1 which is a little outdated, and so we're moving to MariaDB 10.0 at the moment," in his MySQL talk.

According to The Register, the MariaDB Foundation has been working with Google since the "beginning of the year" to help migrate Google's internal DBMS servers to MariaDB. SkySQL , the company that backs MariaDB, CEO Patrik Sallner is reported to have said that Google is "moving many of their applications that have been previously working on MySQL off to MariaDB. We've also been collaborating with them to develop features in MariaDB to enable the migration."

Specifically, Google is moving to its own customized version of MariaDB 10.0. This version of MariaDB is equivalent to MySQL 5.6. Google's version of MariaDB, according to Cole, is "Not really true 'forks' [but are] branches for internal use." He added that Google had been making its own tweaks to the MySQL DBMS family for years.

Reading Cole's presentation it appears that there are several reasons why Google is shifting to MariaDB.

First, while Cole, and Google, "value stability and performance over fancy new features. Oracle doesn’t always feel the same way." While Cole admits that Oracle does good development work, they don't do it in an open-source friendly manner. He said, Cole is "continuing to do good development, but often without much public visibility until release," and worse still, Oracle, "ignores bugs, feedback, and communication from the community."

With Google joining the exodus from MySQL to MariaDB, Oracle has another reason to regret its 2009 $7.4-billion purchase of Sun and MySQL. And the Linux, Apache, MySQL, PHP/Python/Perl (LAMP) stack may soon be known as the Apache, MariaDB, PHP/Python/Perl stack.
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PoegreSQL is also a good candidate since most hosts have support for MySQL and PostgreSQL.
 
I just can't understand Oracle. I have said it in the past as well, it seems their sole mission to destroy FOSS projects, or at least try.

They have now tanked Java, OpenOffice and MySQL to name but a few.

Do they never learn? Or do they have tons of cash to just throw around?
 
I am still not convinced if this will become a trend.
There are just some many sites on mysql.
 
MyWorld said:
I just can't understand Oracle. I have said it in the past as well, it seems their sole mission to destroy FOSS projects, or at least try.

They have now tanked Java, OpenOffice and MySQL to name but a few.

Do they never learn? Or do they have tons of cash to just throw around?
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I hate oracle with a passion. The only sun remnant left is virtualbox, wonder for how long. They're like the anc, everything they touch turns to schit :D
 
ponder said:
I hate oracle with a passion. The only sun remnant left is virtualbox, wonder for how long. They're like the anc, everything they touch turns to schit :D
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Let's hope not. Virtualbox is great software which hasn't entirely suffered from the Oracle involvement. It is a shame though that they haven't continued the overall policy that Sun had towards open source.
 
MyWorld said:
I just can't understand Oracle. I have said it in the past as well, it seems their sole mission to destroy FOSS projects, or at least try.

They have now tanked Java, OpenOffice and MySQL to name but a few.

Do they never learn? Or do they have tons of cash to just throw around?
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Oracle gave openoffice to apache, so they did some good there.
 
Oracle is going to become another white elephant...... they either do not want to or fail to adopt to change......
 
Isn't Oracle still suing Google over Android/Java ? I would imagine that alone should be enough reason for Google to move as far away from Oracle as possible.
 
diabolus said:
Isn't Oracle still suing Google over Android/Java ? I would imagine that alone should be enough reason for Google to move as far away from Oracle as possible.
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That dispute has been settled:
Oracle America, Inc. v. Google, Inc. is a United States District Court for the Northern District of California case on copyright and patent law. In May 2012 the jury in this case found that Google did not infringe on Oracle's patents, and the trial judge ruled that the structure of the Java APIs used by Google was not copyrightable.[1][2][3] The parties agreed to zero dollars in statutory damages for a small amount of copied code.[4]
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oracle_v._Google

I am still not convinced if this will become a trend.
There are just some many sites on mysql.
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It has already happened, almost every distro has moved over to MariaDB, there is no changes to configs or integration headaches, so you will not even notice the change.
 
Im busy trialling Maria as a MySQL replacement.
Oracle have gone a little crazy with their terms and licensing models for MySQL.
 
Yeah, Oracle really killed a lot of the good open source projects. Sad but I guess you got to move on...
 
MyWorld said:
I just can't understand Oracle. I have said it in the past as well, it seems their sole mission to destroy FOSS projects, or at least try.

They have now tanked Java, OpenOffice and MySQL to name but a few.

Do they never learn? Or do they have tons of cash to just throw around?
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Larry must be fuming. Guess no one told him "You can not buy Open Source" If people do not like where its heading, they will split and there is nothing you can do about it.

diabolus said:
Isn't Oracle still suing Google over Android/Java ? I would imagine that alone should be enough reason for Google to move as far away from Oracle as possible.
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They did and was ruled on already. yep you guessed it, they lost that case as well.
 
AlphaJohn said:
Larry must be fuming. Guess no one told him "You can not buy Open Source" If people do not like where its heading, they will split and there is nothing you can do about it.
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You can buy open source. But what Larry forgot is the open source is run in the spirit of being open. And people contribute voluntary. If you make it unpleasant to contribute, they leave.
 
He's just being Larry Elison, weakening the competition and looking after himself.
 
If anything, he's made the competition stronger. More and more people are choosing alternatives.

It also creates a bad (worse?) rep for Oracle. Having worked on an oracle datawarehouse before which was excellent, you now makes think twice if you would choose the stack based on how poor the company is treating the community.
 
I'm also looking at Maria as my drop-in replacement, if not only for the temp tables engine
 
MyWorld said:
I just can't understand Oracle. I have said it in the past as well, it seems their sole mission to destroy FOSS projects, or at least try.

They have now tanked Java, OpenOffice and MySQL to name but a few.

Do they never learn? Or do they have tons of cash to just throw around?
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Larry Ellison is a big ****. Enough said.

Back to GTA5 for me. :)
 
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