Google to acquire Motorola Mobility

Or it could go the Nortel way. Nortel was a Canadian company that went belly up. if that happens they can split up the Assets and be sold to the highest bidder. RIM is still in the black so that wont happen soon.

RIM is still strong enough to be of real value. Better to bond than to dissolve.
 
@Bevonk here is your Asian wish.

http://www.engadget.com/2011/08/16/xiaomi-m1-with-miui-os-a-310-phone-with-1-5ghz-dual-core-soc-a/

If you've already seen the Xiaomi M1 announcement about a month ago, well, forget it, because Xiaomi has already made some significant changes since then. What we've just learned from today's Beijing launch event is that the M1 no longer packs a 1.2GHz dual-core chip; instead, it's been given a bump to a Qualcomm MSM8260 SoC, thus becoming the first Chinese phone to sport a 1.5GHz dual-core chip. As part of the Snapdragon package, the M1 is also powered by a powerful Adreno 220 graphics processor, which will no doubt make good use of the phone's 1GB RAM and a staggering 4GB ROM. Oh, and that ÂĄ2,600 (about US$410) price tag? It's now ÂĄ1,999 ($310). Read on for more surprises!
Xiaomi M1 with MIUI OS: a $310 phone with 1.5GHz dual-core SoC and other surprises

Unlike most phones with a 1400mAh or 1500mAh battery these days, the M1 gets a ginormous 1930mAh cell instead, and we're promised to get two days worth of real-life usage out of it -- CEO Lei Jun emphasised the "real-life" part, so we shall see. Another surprise -- albeit an odd one -- is that the M1 supports both GPS (with A-GPS) and Russia's GLONASS, meaning President Medvedev can navigate around his country just fine while updating his Weibo Twitter.

As for the rest, you get a 4-inch 480 x 854 LCD courtesy of Sharp (LCD for better outdoor performance, and 4 inches for Asian ergonomics), three touch buttons below the screen, a customisable "Mi key" (camera shutter or Weibo; long press for home screen), an eight megapixel camera with an F2.4 lens, and a dual antenna design that plays well with any kind of grip (obviously a little wink at Apple). Dimension-wise we're looking at 125mm x 63mm x 11.9mm, weighing 149g or 5.3 ounces -- just a tad heavier than the iPhone 4. As for accessories, we're told that there will cases in at least seven bright colors, along with spare batteries of the same set of colors (that's how awesome Xiaomi is).

Of course, let's not forget the real star here: the MIUI (pronounced "mee-you-eye") OS, which is a low-level custom UI based on Android 2.3.5. There's no question about MIUI's rapidly increasing popularity in recent years (Xiaomi quoted a user base of about 500,000), but if you insist on trying other Android flavors on Xiaomi's hardware, then you'll be pleased to know that the M1 lets you flash whatever firmware you like.

If you're starting to doubt the M1's reliability, you shouldn't -- we've been told that this phone's been thoroughly torture-tested in the lab, simulating two years worth of usage. "This is why we take much longer than shanzhai factories to make a phone," said the CEO.

Stay tuned for our hands-on.
 
@Bevonk here is your Asian wish.

Good! Even more reason for the old boys to bond before its too late. China must be seen as a major threat.

Look at Lenovo. I use Lenovo laptops ... they are my first choice Windows machines. Good design. Well made. Very reliable.
 
Good! Even more reason for the old boys to bond before its too late. China must be seen as a major threat.

Look at Lenovo. I use Lenovo laptops ... they are my first choice Windows machines. Good design. Well made. Very reliable.

I just flashed MIUI (the Asian version of Android) and I must admit it kicks Google Android's ass.

Its basicly the best of both worlds, the openess and freedom of Android + the design and elegance of Apple's iOS. No jannievanzyl its not a fragment either as it runs all Android applications. This is a clear showcase of what can be done with Android and the Open design.

Sure this will not sell in US of A because Apple will kick and scream like there is no tomorrow. But for the US citizens there is hope, you are welcome to load the OS on your phone yourself, avoiding all the iOS legal claims.
 
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There is place for Android + iOS + WP + one other. The "one other" will have to be a combination from whatever is already out there. Better for RIM and HP to join forces with one OS than a fragmented bunch of alternatives that will never be able to capture enough market share on their own.

It's probably the best for them to join up but often 1 + 1 <> 3.

Such a merger could be the (final) undoing of both.
 
Such a merger could be the (final) undoing of both.

I just don't see either of them survive on their own in this market. RIM maybe, but HP's WebOS is just not going to get any traction. If HP really wants to be a serious player in this game it needs something very special to happen very soon. The other players are moving at pace. What can/will give HP the nitro boost it needs? If not RIM then what?
 
I just don't see either of them survive on their own in this market. RIM maybe, but HP's WebOS is just not going to get any traction. If HP really wants to be a serious player in this game it needs something very special to happen very soon. The other players are moving at pace. What can/will give HP the nitro boost it needs? If not RIM then what?

I agree by coming together they might stand a change but then they'll need a proper strategy which both lack at the moment. You don't just chuck two bits into the pot, stir and out jumps this new!, improved! thingamajig. You first need a recipe, i.e. strategy.

But the biggest concern is cultural. Trying to get them to work as one is going to be like trying to mix oil and water.
 
Chinaforce:

ZTE Corporation, a publicly-listed global provider of telecommunications equipment and network solutions, today announced it has gained the number one ranking by lodging the most international patent applications in the first quarter of 2011, according to WIPO.
ZTE applied for 974 patents in the quarter, almost double the amount of second-placed Panasonic, which applied for 559 patents in the same period.
The company is also one of the top five companies in the world in terms of PCT patent applications, and the only Chinese company in this group.
In 2011, ZTE expects its PCT patent applications to grow rapidly, and is very likely to top the rankings in terms of international patent applications. In 2010, ZTE was ranked number two with 1 863 international patent applications. By 1Q 2011, the number of international patent applications already exceeded 50% of the total number lodged last year.
The opportunities presented by the coming LTE era and ZTE's latest breakthroughs in the US and European markets have become a driving force for ZTE to take the lead in international patent applications.
“ZTE's IPR strategy is in line with the company's globalisation strategy and market forecast. In support of the company's developments in high-end markets, ZTE will continually invest in the field of IPR and keep up the momentum in international patent applications,” said Wang Haibo, ZTE's IPR director.
In 2010, ZTE revenue from US and European markets increased 50% compared with the same period of last year, and accounted for 21% of the company's total revenue.
ZTE continuously invests over 10% of its revenue in R&D. In the last four years, the accumulated R&D cost has reached as much as RMB 40 billion. In addition to independent innovation, ZTE has signed a number of cross licensing agreements with industry partners, either as licensor or licensee. In 2010, ZTE paid a license fee of $110 million, higher than other Chinese telecom vendors in terms of the percentage of operating revenue.
With its long-term accumulation in the IPR field, ZTE has applied for more than 35 000 patents domestically and internationally. Of these, over 90% are essential patents related to essential telecoms standards and core patents related to core telecom technologies. By 2010, ZTE was ranked number one in China for 107 cloud computing patents applications. ZTE's LTE patents applications account for 7% of the entire industry.
 
I just flashed MIUI (the Asian version of Android) and I must admit it kicks Google Android's ass.

Its basicly the best of both worlds, the openess and freedom of Android + the design and elegance of Apple's iOS. No jannievanzyl its not a fragment either as it runs all Android applications. This is a clear showcase of what can be done with Android and the Open design.
Don't read my comments as anti-Android. Rather see them as a commentary how vendors have to differentiate to compete. It's just Business-101, the vendor circle-of-life.

So today the GUI, tomorrow the what? Once everyone's got a sexy GUI, how do they then differentiate?

And don't forget manufacturers hate open systems as it removes the ability to lock a customer in. Sure they'll preach open but they'll try and turn it proprietary as quickly as possible. (Remember Microsoft and Java?)

I'll put your proverbial on the block the Moto-boys are already thinking how they can do this and get one up on those pesky Samsung guys. ;)
 
The American companies are fighting so hard amongst themselves - and we/media are all so focussed on them - that no-one sees the Chinese Dragon gaining strength/power.
 
Don't read my comments as anti-Android. Rather see them as a commentary how vendors have to differentiate to compete. It's just Business-101, the vendor circle-of-life.

So today the GUI, tomorrow the what? Once everyone's got a sexy GUI, how do they then differentiate?

And don't forget manufacturers hate open systems as it removes the ability to lock a customer in. Sure they'll preach open but they'll try and turn it proprietary as quickly as possible. (Remember Microsoft and Java?)

I'll put your proverbial on the block the Moto-boys are already thinking how they can do this and get one up on those pesky Samsung guys. ;)

I guess if you look at it that way it could happen, but if you use OEM's as competitors what will drive them to make Windows 7 Phones.

Even worse is the fact that Microsoft wants to ensure that all phones get the new updates as soon as they come one. So what makes one HTC WP7 device better than the next HTC WP7 device?
 
Nice. What firewall app is that?

Its part of the MIUI OS, it has a lot of additions in the stock OS that really places it above the rest. The firewall works great for blocking all the ads.
 
The US companies must thank Hollywood for marketing American products in places like China. Without Hollywood a person in China might not care about Apple products.
 
But the biggest concern is cultural. Trying to get them to work as one is going to be like trying to mix oil and water.

Culture is always a major challenge, but if these companies were to see the Chinese threat moving closer and closer they would find solutions to these challenges. They have to. The cultures in HP and RIM are - as I understand it - both conservative ... and closer ... than what it will take to merge Western and Eastern corporate cultures.

I'm obviously speculating about a possible/potential solution. There are others for sure. I was actually hoping for a Google + RIM outcome at some point. RIM's BIS infrastructure must be valuable, especially to a company wanting to get traction in emerging markets where telecoms costs are high. BBM is another winning platform worth getting. RIM may surprise us all and survive the storms, but will they really stand a realistic chance to stand their ground against the iOS and Android onslaughts? I doubt it. HP imo is a non-entity in this market at present, but they must be sitting on valuable IPR.
 
As an aside, there's so much prattling about "open source" advantage for Android. What is that exactly? I've never seen anyone actually spell out how being "open source" helps anything at all, other than a bit of ideological glow. Apps development any easier, better, smoother, more abundant? Nope. Hardware homologation? Nope. Hardware standardisation? Nope.

Seems to be more a question of what you're against ("closed source") than what you're for, hardly a recipe for long-term success and ongoing investment. So where's the beef with "open source"? Just asking.

The more I think about Google's Motorola bid the more I think it's a big mid-term mistake for them.
 
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