Google under government pressure

There are criminals, criminals and criminals

The great thing about government investigations is that you must trust them and provide them information, but they will not trust you. You cannot know whether you are handing over a freedom loving non-conformist or an enemy of the Party or a real criminal who committed a real crime. It is easy enough to lie in the information gathering process that a target did some standard evil and then dispense with legal process.
 
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Faceplam article: Google and crime

It seems Reuters is confusing two issues here, criminal investigations and spying.
  • PRISM and similar programs are an abuse of power and the legal system, abusing human rights.
  • Normal criminal investigations are another thing, protecting human rights.

Or are they?

Let first look at the party seeing these increased requests for info, Google. I'm only showing local issues Google related. Yet South Africa is not the only country being targeted in these scams described here, neither are the below a complete list of scams or fraudulent activities on Google. However we know Google's stance on these issues. Numerous people on these forums can testify to Google anti-fraud attitude - or rather lack of it.

I have a brilliant solution for Google to reduce these figures, very simple really: Google should stop willingly and knowingly allow themselves to be used by criminal elements and live a bit more on their stated policies.

To draw it home, let's look at the state of the South African Woza Online program. At the moment we are now seeing an influx of Cameroonian export scams flourishing on Woza Online, the others are already well known - electronics scams,white goods scams, camera scams ... all extensions of the Cameroonian pet scams. Yet these Cameroonian scams are different:
http://chambavillcoltd.wozaonline.co.za/
http://mycocoafoundation.wozaonline.co.za/
http://insectsville.wozaonline.co.za/
http://agroproduct.wozaonline.co.za/
....
However these types of scams are not unknown.

Why, we even have a spoof of Camair Co at http://camair-co.wozaonline.co.za/ (oops, something happened to their fake tracking system on JotForm. 0:-D)

Woza Online - now proudly becoming the Woza Online Fraud portal of Africa!.

(Off topic: I wonder how the DTI's spin doctor Sidwell Medupe will explain this one? First praising it, then denying knowledge of it, then claiming to have had no knowledge of the fraud on it.)

Look at the state of YouTube by searching for "Vectrol Paste" Did you see the number of scams? Yet growing by the day, no wonder Google is getting more requests from law enforcement investigating crimes - that is what they are supposed to be doing under these circumstance if there are victims. Duh!
Listen to this lovely Cameroonian accent: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JcNRIt-zDjs.

If I dare search for "Vectrol paste" in Google's search page, I get scams popping up in Adwords. Ditto "SSD Solution" - the only result should be as an abbreviation for Solid State Disk Solution.

Yet these claimed chemicals have never existed and are no more than snake oil. Google knows this. This is not a bad business practice or like - this is fraud, undistilled fraud. Google has been informed. Even if they didn't know, they could have quickly checked and known by now, but no. Yet people are turning into victims. Investigations follows, the result being more requests for info on certain Google users. Duh!

Considering these are so easy to find, it's a good measure of Google's willingness to protect the consumer. Bottom line, they don't, we are there cash cows for their marketing methods. Search for Vectrol Paste leads to results where they have a vested interested in the user arriving, Youtube or adword sponsored sites. Even Google+ profiles. The dubious are turned into victims that to the "do not be evil" Google. Hah!

Maybe Google should ask themselves how fraud leads to a loss of privacy and not claim to be the privacy advocates. They are most definitely not. Currently they are playing off PRISM. Talk about the pot calling the kettle black. Maybe that is also why they are seeing more requests for data in criminal cases: Google is currently the African criminal's friend! They could have been such a good company based upon their products if they were only willing to use it themselves. Ironical really.

Related, I just stumbled upon this searching for something shown above: Incredible!!!
http://www.smallbusinessconnect.co.za/news/copycat-site-fraud-rise.html
Criminals are targeting Woza Online website owners who sell goods online by copying their sites and duping consumers by making them believe that they are buying from a legitimate business.
Where do they catch these reporters? :confused:

What a "face palm mistake"! (@RPM: we need a facepalm smiley please) It should read:
Criminals on Woza Online are targeting website owners who sell goods online by copying their sites and duping consumers by making them believe that they are buying from a legitimate business.
Big difference!!

Then there are the other types of online fraud where Google's services are being used. Phishing jumps to mind rather quickly.

No wonder the requests for info in crime incidents has gone up - crime is going up as Google's services is a prime destination for the crime perpetrators. Simple really - nothing sinister here.


In fairness to Reuters and the original article, these issues are indirectly linked. Since the PRISM program was exposed, crime has been flourishing as ordinary citizens, a tad neurotic, are now listening to spin doctors at corporates regarding privacy while privacy is in fact now being abused more than ever by criminals in the wake of the anti-PRISM tsunami to abuse privacy (and rights). Sad. It's not only the US economic issues that blows over to the rest of the world ... but that is a story in itself for a forthcoming blog.
 
The insight I have regarding "Google under government pressure" is not because of the increase in criminal investigations, but more a reason for government agencies and political parties attempting to close down "anti-government" opinions. The Woza case for example is a poster-child of how cyberfraud investigations are conducted in South Africa. In most cases SAPS/CCU refuse to investigate due to the "low" economic impact and in the few cases we tried to open where shut-down due to exposure being less than 50K.

In the few cases where the cases where "significant", the CCU wasted so much time with the investigations that eventually 205's rendered no information from ISPs.

The Woza case is however slightly more complex: The DTI and a number of other local government agencies and local companies kicked Woza off as "an incubator for SMEs" but as soon as problems started to crop up, everyone stuck their head into the sand and knew nothing about it. The DTI had all of a sudden no knowledge of the programme existing. Google South Africa refers everyone to Google Inc (or to use the "Report Abuse button") and Google Inc does not respond or refers people to their policies which means that local law enforcement would actually have to challenge Google internationally.

Strangely enough, I have seen more transparency and co-operation from Bing/Microsoft in the last few months, then I have ever experienced with Google. I do think that the EU is doing the right thing in trying to "de-monopolise" Google.
 
Strangely enough, I have seen more transparency and co-operation from Bing/Microsoft in the last few months, then I have ever experienced with Google. I do think that the EU is doing the right thing in trying to "de-monopolise" Google.

May you be wrong, but you're probably right, money talks. I could have told you to follow https://twitter.com/bgedelman to understand the nature of the beast, but that would be preaching to the converted.

But how do we get the EU to do it?
 
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