Got C#? Aussie Startup looking for SA Developer #2

lewstherin

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After successfully finding our first SA-based developer via this forum, we're back looking for another awesome dev to join our team :)


About Us

We're a Brisbane-based startup building a leading business to business mobility platform, aimed at the IT channel and enterprise.

Our rapidly expanding customer base is primarily European and US based, which means we’re not sleeping much thanks to our GMT +10 timezone!

Appenate was founded by me (lewstherin, old school MyADSLer) and these ties back to SA have lead to us establishing a team here focused on support, software development and sales.

We have embraced the concept of a distributed company, with staff working either from home or out of co-working spaces.



The Opportunity

This is an opportunity to join a lean, agile and exciting company that is globally focused and working with cutting edge mobile and cloud technologies.

Being a small company, we expect all team members to be ready and able to learn fast and work across many aspects.
One week you might be fixing ASP.Net bugs on Microsoft Azure, the next week you could be coding a new feature on our Android or IOS apps.

You need to be self-starting, disciplined and able to communicate well.
If you don't want to work from home, no problem - we'll cover the cost of a desk at a co-working space near you.
At the moment we have staff working out of Durban's funky co-working space - The Sett (www.thesett.co.za).
Free lunch and all day caffe-quality coffee is part of The Sett's awesome benefits.

Our preference is to find someone in Durban, but anywhere in SA is fine if you're the right person for the job.

We all hang out in HipChat and Skype, so you're in constant contact with the whole team.
You'll be setup with whatever you need to be productive - Macbook Pros are standard for our developers.

This role has plenty of scope to learn and grow as the company grows.

Salary is negotiable, market related. We want the best person for the job, period.



The Requirements

Our entire code base is C# and we love the language.
We use Xamarin tools for mobile app dev with an ASP.Net, SQL Server backend running on Azure.

Solid (3+ years) experience with C# is strongly preferred.
If you're a rockstar dev with 5+ years in other languages and believe you can make the jump to C#, we're happy to consider you.

Some combination of the following skills is also needed:
- SQL Server
- ASP.Net MVC
- JQuery
- Android dev experience
- IOS dev experience
- Windows Phone dev experience
- Silverlight experience
- Xamarin experience
- Azure experience
- ServiceStack experience
- RESTful web services
- MVVM patterns

We have a strict "no douchebags" hiring policy.



This looks awesome, how do I apply????

Mail your resume to hello[at]appenate.com :)
 
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lewstherin

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We structure salaries to be competitive for the market you live in.
So you're in Cape Town, we'll be looking at salaries in that market's range. Same for Durban, Johannesburg etc.
 

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We structure salaries to be competitive for the market you live in.
So you're in Cape Town, we'll be looking at salaries in that market's range. Same for Durban, Johannesburg etc.

And the range would be in each city? (Actual values)
 

lewstherin

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There are a lot of factors involved such as attitude, experience, current position, potential and value you can add to our company.

For instance, someone at junior developer level may have awesome potential and the perfect background for our software stack.
So I'm not going to put a tight range on anything, its really going to come down to the person and fit with us.

Since you seem fixated on salary numbers, lets just say the range is R0 - R100,000 per month :)
 

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There are a lot of factors involved such as attitude, experience, current position, potential and value you can add to our company.

For instance, someone at junior developer level may have awesome potential and the perfect background for our software stack.
So I'm not going to put a tight range on anything, its really going to come down to the person and fit with us.

Since you seem fixated on salary numbers, lets just say the range is R0 - R100,000 per month :)

We understand that juniors and seniors can be on different grades, just the range you willing to pay which you put in your last sentence.
 

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here is sa senior software engineers (5+ years xp) will likely be from 400k up to 700k per year thats 58k per month.
Juniors, maybe anything up to 300K per year.
 

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This looks awesome. Test/business analyst? :D
 

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Very very interesting.
C#,Objective C ,dev,SQL Server,VB6 here with 12 years in software development working, 20 years coding.
Guess I am going to have to go put together my CV.

So why are you looking for people from SA?
Do you ever see these people moving to Aus?
 

lewstherin

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We're looking for people in SA because the timezone is ideal and I'm originally from Durban, so the country is familiar.

As a distributed company, we don't have any need to migrate people since we don't have a central office as such - timezone is more important than location at this point.

Also to avoid any broken hearts, the upper limit of R100k a month was a joking response to someone that clearly predicates their decision making on how much money they stand to make.
If your primary reason for wanting to join Appenate is a pay rise, we're not a good fit.
You would be best suited looking at the other job ads (especially those that start with numeric listing codes, seems those guys really care about who they hire).

We want people with more in their vision than dollar signs.
 
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Ho3n3r

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We're looking for people in SA because the timezone is ideal and I'm originally from Durban, so the country is familiar.

As a distributed company, we don't have any need to migrate people since we don't have a central office as such - timezone is more important than location at this point.

Also to avoid any broken hearts, the upper limit of R100k a month was a joking response to someone that clearly predicates their decision making on how much money they stand to make.
If your primary reason for wanting to join Appenate is a pay rise, we're not a good fit.

We want people with more in their vision than dollar signs.

I always like the irony of companies seeking to hire because they need to "expand" (read: higher profit), yet when it's the employee seeking more money, "they won't fit in well".
 

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We want people with more in their vision than dollar signs.

What sort of incentive are you guys prepared to give if people should not look at money? Share options?

The job description sounds good though. I'm almost tempted. I'm already working from home 4 days a week. Want someone for 1 day a week? :D
 
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lewstherin

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Mass generalisation about company he'd never heard of until now

To avoid derailing this thread, I'll simply say that we are not at all like most companies.
The only way you can find this out for yourself is send a resume and have a chat.
 

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We're looking for people in SA because the timezone is ideal and I'm originally from Durban, so the country is familiar.

As a distributed company, we don't have any need to migrate people since we don't have a central office as such - timezone is more important than location at this point.

Also to avoid any broken hearts, the upper limit of R100k a month was a joking response to someone that clearly predicates their decision making on how much money they stand to make.
If your primary reason for wanting to join Appenate is a pay rise, we're not a good fit.
You would be best suited looking at the other job ads (especially those that start with numeric listing codes, seems those guys really care about who they hire).

We want people with more in their vision than dollar signs.
Lol, I am still studying ICT, I want to know what the current trends (in salaries) are.
Also, per forum rules, you have to give a salary indication (market rate is not an indication).
 

lewstherin

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What sort of incentive are you guys prepared to give if people should not look at money? Share options?

We like people that have more than just money as a reason for wanting to join.

If you are more interested in taking on challenges and building something awesome, the money takes care of itself.

An employee share pool is on the cards too.
 
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Johnatan56

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We like people that have more than just money as a reason for wanting to join.

If you are more interested in taking on challenges and building something awesome, the money takes care of itself.

An employee share pool is on the cards too.

I think you are missing the point I am trying to make.
 

S1ght

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I think you are missing the point I am trying to make.

It does sound like pure profit for them doesn't it :p Income in their currency, expense in ours. I think the reality comes in (if money is the concern here) that if they're offering market related, there are ton of options here that offer the same with probably more benefits.

My opinion on the matter at least.
 

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We're looking for people in SA because the timezone is ideal and I'm originally from Durban, so the country is familiar.

As a distributed company, we don't have any need to migrate people since we don't have a central office as such - timezone is more important than location at this point.

Also to avoid any broken hearts, the upper limit of R100k a month was a joking response to someone that clearly predicates their decision making on how much money they stand to make.
If your primary reason for wanting to join Appenate is a pay rise, we're not a good fit.
You would be best suited looking at the other job ads (especially those that start with numeric listing codes, seems those guys really care about who they hire).

We want people with more in their vision than dollar signs.

Fair enough... but if you look at it from the developers point of view, some of us are stuck in jobs that we want to leave but can't because we can't afford to work for less than we currently earn.

Salary is an issue but its not something that should be a problem upfront. Either you want to move or you don't.
 

lewstherin

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Lets just say that no one we have hired in SA has gone backwards in terms of salary from their previous positions.
 
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