Gout

Tinuva said:
True, it might not work while you already have it, but if you start now then at least you not fueling the problem, ie. it should lessen over time, instead of making it worse.

Then again, if people don't want such advice, its not worth the time giving this advice.

Best of luck
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You will see that I did not ask for advice, I asked what people who have gout use for it. ;)
 
MickeyD said:
So true!! I had my first acute gout "attack" about 3 years ago and I kakked!!!! I used Dicloflam and a mild painkiller when I felt the onset and during the attack. Thereafter I used a daily dose of Dr Vogel's Multifore Akaline powder.

Diet wise I made one or two minor adjustments but still enjoy my steak, red wine and a few beers....
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A Vogel is a quack. Not a doctor. And all his natural products are a heap of ****. Expensive **** I might add.
 
I gave this old guy a 2l tub off oxtail once and he started swearing me like you can't believe, apparently it was his nemesis. Loved it but the gout killed him, that & red wine. Still dunno what gout is and grateful for it.
 
I suffer severe gout attacks at least once a month and have been hospitalised a few times. Doctors say mine is the worst they've ever seen. I've had a good run for two months now since I got a new doctor that gave me the opposite advice from all the things I've been told before. Red meat is good. White meat is bad. And it works.

I've been through every diet and pill ever invented and have found the following:

Best anti-inflam by far = Arcoxia. Trust me this works. It is however a risky substance and must be taken with care. It was banned in the States for a time but is back on the market after some changes to the formula.

Diet: The problem is purine, not acid. High Purine levels are caused by certain proteins found interestingly enough in white meats like chicken. Mushrooms are off limits. Red meat is fine. Lemons are good. A mix of lemon juice and ginger paste in a glass of water is excellent. Stay away from alcohol, not because of acid, but because alcohol intereferes with the processing of Purine.
 
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I got gout from too much droewors and Coke - its a lethal combo for extreme gout. :(

But then I discovered Coxflam 15/7.5 and never had it again. :)

Now I eat as much droewors as I like, party as much as I like - no problemo.

*Also helps a lot to drink any berry juice, like strawberry or cranberry.
 
HapticSimian said:
It's Schedule 3, so probably not 6 months' supply at a time but yes you can.
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Bad advice here. Puricos [allopurinol] is not meant to relieve symptoms of gout. In fact it will make a gout flare-up much, much worse! It is intended as a preventative measure, and only starts becoming effective after a few months. I suffer from gout, but after having been on Puricos for 3 months, haven't had an attack in over a year.

If you have a flare-up, cataflam/catafast+colchicine is the quickest way to relieve the symptoms, and most pharmacies will supply this OTC. Just don't venture too far from a loo...
 
JayM said:
Bad advice here. Puricos [allopurinol] is not meant to relieve symptoms of gout. In fact it will make a gout flare-up much, much worse! It is intended as a preventative measure, and only starts becoming effective after a few months. I suffer from gout, but after having been on Puricos for 3 months, haven't had an attack in over a year.

If you have a flare-up, cataflam/catafast+colchicine is the quickest way to relieve the symptoms, and most pharmacies will supply this OTC. Just don't venture too far from a loo...
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:wtf:

How do you arrive at me giving advice to combat a flare-up in this instance? As I said previously, the only thing I've come across to effectively prevent major attacks is to take a Puricos tablet every couple of days.

Read a fooking thread before you proclaim something as bad advice.
 
HapticSimian said:
:wtf:

How do you arrive at me giving advice to combat a flare-up in this instance? As I said previously, the only thing I've come across to effectively prevent major attacks is to take a Puricos tablet every couple of days.

Read a fooking thread before you proclaim something as bad advice.
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Apologies for the misunderstanding, but I did read the whole thread. I assumed that by stating that you can obtain it OTC would imply that a few days' supply would somehow be effective, which it won't. A pharmacy will not supply you with Puricos without a prescription for this reason - there would be no point.

Also, alcohol (particularly beer and read wine), is a large risk factor for gout.
 
Slootvreter said:
I do believe that alcohol is the main contributor in my case as well, especially white wine. :(
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it might not be the main factor but it def does add to the situation once the attack is over and you've started
on something like puricos then you can go back to chugging :} but stay away from the purine rich foods.

strange thing to note though ... allot of ppl have dif foods that sets off the attack, just gotta find out what
you trigger is.
 
On another note: My gout flare-up usually last only a day or two. What's the longest anyone here has experienced?
 
The last attack before I started with proactive preventative measures was a solid week. I don't believe to say I was near death is much of an exaggeration...
 
Wow, I could not even look at my red toe for the pain. The worst pain I have EVER had but had to go to work. Run my own business.
Went on crutches slowly. Very slowly.
My wife bought some VELTEX over the counter and it took 30 minutes for me to dump the crutches and no pain whatsoever. Nix.
 
marco said:
Wow, I could not even look at my red toe for the pain. The worst pain I have EVER had but had to go to work. Run my own business.
Went on crutches slowly. Very slowly.
My wife bought some VELTEX over the counter and it took 30 minutes for me to dump the crutches and no pain whatsoever. Nix.
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Veltex seems to be the same as Panamor. Took some this morning, almost 100% again.
 
I've just seen this on PhysOrg:

Agonizing and debilitating attacks of gout, an inflammatory disease affecting the joints, could soon be consigned to history, thanks to a non-invasive test that can detect the disease before the first painful symptoms strike. Keiji Yashio and Yasuyoshi Watanabe at the RIKEN Center for Molecular Imaging Science at Kobe and their colleagues developed the test that, as well as being useful for diagnosis, could finally reveal exactly what triggers bouts of the disease.

Gout attacks can occur when uric acid levels rise to abnormally high levels in the blood, and then begin to accumulate and crystallize in the lubricating, or synovial, fluid within joints. Patients tend to experience the disease as a series of attacks, and currently there is no way to detect when an attack is about to begin.
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