GPON vs AON

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Frogfoot and Octotel and both trenching in our suburb (Lakeside) and im trying to decide which network provider to sign with. Octotel have indicated that they run a GPON network (passive optical network) and Frogfoot seems to use AON (active optical network) technology (assumed)

Ive been reading various posts on the forum which seem to indicate that peak time congestion is a problem on the Octotel network due to this passive design.

Is this really a major issue ? Do you think its better to sign up with the network provider using AON ? HELP!!
 
Neither is better or worse from a congested point of view IF they are designed properly and not oversubscribed. AON might be marginally easier to adapt to increasing service demand than GPON, but both will be completely stuffed up by greedy operators intent on making inordinate large profits over a short time. That is where the seeds of oversubscription come from, NOT from the technology itself.

Rather understand what each technology can deliver, NOT what the operator tells you it can do, THEN evaluate his offerings and see if he is going to see to it that you as a user gets the maximum out of the technology that is possible per subscriber.

GPON, by definition, is a "shared" last mile technology, which has to be done within the constraints of the design and never exceeded in terms of the number of subscribers per fibre or breaking the shared bandwidth rules.

AON, being an active system can offer a mix of shared and dedicated bandwidth allocations, and is adaptable.

GPON is less susceptible to power issues than AON, simply because there are less active points in a GPON system than there are in an AON . It is incorrect to assume that a GPON system is totally passive, it is most definitely not so.
 
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tkburn said:
Is this really a major issue ? Do you think its better to sign up with the network provider using AON ? HELP!!
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Either would be fine. Between these two, sign up with the one that has the biggest number of ISP's on their network.
 
ArtyLoop said:
GPON is rubbish, that's my experience. Its prone to congestion and I've had a very bad experience with it.
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GPON is prone to congestion because when the makers said 32 or 64 way split they did not mean you need to load 32 or 64 1gbps customers. The OLT can't do that bandwidth.

Spreading high speed and low speed customers over multiple OLT's is the best to insure that congestion isn't a problem that is why network planning is important and new installations need to carefully be monitored to make sure the high speed customers don't flood the OLT.
 
cavedog said:
GPON is prone to congestion because when the makers said 32 or 64 way split they did not mean you need to load 32 or 64 1gbps customers. The OLT can't do that bandwidth.

Spreading high speed and low speed customers over multiple OLT's is the best to insure that congestion isn't a problem that is why network planning is important and new installations need to carefully be monitored to make sure the high speed customers don't flood the OLT.
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Octotel don't know what planning is... all they saw was the $$$ and that was the drug deal sealed
 
ArtyLoop said:
GPON is rubbish, that's my experience. Its prone to congestion and I've had a very bad experience with it.
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GPON is NOT rubbish! What is true, GPON deployed by incompetent operators who do not stick to the deployment rules end up with service products that perform below what the technology can and DOES deliver when deployed and used correctly!

Please make useful contributions based on facts, instead of demonstrating your huge gaps in the understanding of technology.
 
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Geoff.D said:
So then rather say Octotel have deployed GPON incorrectly and have ended up with an inferior service as a result.
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Since things are state secrets, and I have only a small, peephole vision into what is really going on, provided by @PBCool and @TheRoDent, I prefix all I say with "my experience"
Of course I don't know how it works, but, given the nature of how stuff is done in this country, I guess I shouldn't be surprised the network is rubbish. Pursuit of Profits before quality, typical SA business mentality.
 
tkburn said:
@ArtyLoop , can I ask which area you were in ? the reports all seem to be localised to certain places.
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Blouberg... there's a known issue apparently. I say "apparently" because I cannot be sure who is telling the truth or lying to cover their own ass.
But nothing's been done about it. All I get is the most feeble excuses I've heard in my life
 
pinball wizard said:
Either would be fine. Between these two, sign up with the one that has the biggest number of ISP's on their network.
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@pinball wizard , they both seem to have an equal number of ISP's on the network , the pricing on the Octotel network however is cheaper in certain instances eg 200/25 for R1085pm via adept
 
Fascinating to see how Octotel's website directs you to a blank download section and provided no detail re the technology they use. Did they ever provide this info or have they simply removed it recently?
If it has been removed, what are they hiding?
 
Chatted to some of the okes from frogfoot today, it seems their Ftth solutions are also GPON. Next question is do I take a 200/25 or a 100/100 uncapped package
 
Geoff.D said:
Fascinating to see how Octotel's website directs you to a blank download section and provided no detail re the technology they use. Did they ever provide this info or have they simply removed it recently?
If it has been removed, what are they hiding?
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I hadn't come across it on their site before, it doesn't seem like any of the providers give detailed info on their tech
 
tkburn said:
Chatted to some of the okes from frogfoot today, it seems their Ftth solutions are also GPON. Next question is do I take a 200/25 or a 100/100 uncapped package
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100/100 uncapped.
Even 50/50 Uncapped would be fine for home use.
 
Just arrived here, hi! Also trenching in Muizenberg, excited to finally have fibre, especially for livestreaming and uploading, omg! is it worth asking an ISP which is their most stable/popular Fibre provider? I'm new to this whole Fibre thing, confused by the difference between Frogfoot and Axxess (provider and ISP?)
 
natemaingard said:
Just arrived here, hi! Also trenching in Muizenberg, excited to finally have fibre, especially for livestreaming and uploading, omg! is it worth asking an ISP which is their most stable/popular Fibre provider? I'm new to this whole Fibre thing, confused by the difference between Frogfoot and Axxess (provider and ISP?)
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Hey ive signed up on this package , im in the Lakeside Phase 1 zone (go live mid March). screenshot-www.octotel.co.za-2019.03.01-16-18-53.png

Frogfoot / Octotel / Vumatel provide your line (ALA Telkom ye olde ADSL) , the ISP provides your data Afrihost/VOX etc
 
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