GPU Value Comparisons

If you want to future proof your pc, i would consider ati rather than nividia, all the nextgen consoles are running ati cards, that just in my mind means that most games releasing cross platform will be optimized for ati. Just my opinion really.
 
BladeV2.0 said:
If you want to future proof your pc, i would consider ati rather than nividia, all the nextgen consoles are running ati cards, that just in my mind means that most games releasing cross platform will be optimized for ati. Just my opinion really.
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+1. I completely agree with this. Not just that, but the value for money is just so much better. Even if you look at the new cards that was just released, they are as good, if not better than the TITAN from Nvidia, and at a better price. In terms of GPU, AMD is the way to go. I would say in terms of CPU as well, but that is off topic.
 
The argument that future consoles are running ATI cards therefore go ATI isn't really very relevant. The APIs are so different that it won't have much impact on performance... I could be wrong of course, but I doubt we'll see very much leverage from that.

As for performance, right now AMD is way ahead of Nvidia on price/performance. That's because they just released a new generation of cards and Titan is 8 months old. They brought Titan levels of performance to mainstream pricing and that's quite an achievement. But it doesn't mean they'll always be, or always were. It flipflops between them.

As for CPU's... yer 'avin a larf, surely?
 
cerebus said:
The argument that future consoles are running ATI cards therefore go ATI isn't really very relevant. The APIs are so different that it won't have much impact on performance... I could be wrong of course, but I doubt we'll see very much leverage from that.

As for performance, right now AMD is way ahead of Nvidia on price/performance. That's because they just released a new generation of cards and Titan is 8 months old. They brought Titan levels of performance to mainstream pricing and that's quite an achievement. But it doesn't mean they'll always be, or always were. It flipflops between them.

As for CPU's... yer 'avin a larf, surely?
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I believe we will see the relevance when it comes to driver releases. Sure, the APIs will be different, but the hardware optimization will already be done in AMDs favour. This may not make a big difference, but it surely could. The main thing to focus on, however, is the price to performance ratio. You will get way more out of an AMD card than you will out of an NVidia card for the price.

No, I am not having a laugh. I do not deny that Intel has way stronger processors, but if you look at the mid price range, it makes complete sense. You can go ahead and buy a 3570k for R2500, or you can go ahead and buy an AMD FX-8350. You will get more or less the same performance, but the AMD processor has the upper hand for mutlicore applications, and as gaming devs are surely going to focus more on Multi core, it is a step in the right direction. The AMD CPU architecture still needs work, as it is a new structure now, and that might still take a while. I suppose we should put this argument on hold until that point. All I am saying is, I have an Fx-8350 and I have not had a single issue with it.
 
Lord Nikon6 said:
The main thing to focus on, however, is the price to performance ratio. You will get way more out of an AMD card than you will out of an NVidia card for the price.
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Again, that has not always been the case and it's bound to change again when Nvidia counters AMD. It's a constant flip flopping between them which is great for the buyer because they're constantly slashing prices down. I can give you many cases where Nvidia have outdone AMD on p/p at the time, and vice versa. Right now though, the advantage is firmly for AMD.

The AMD CPU architecture still needs work, as it is a new structure now, and that might still take a while. I suppose we should put this argument on hold until that point. All I am saying is, I have an Fx-8350 and I have not had a single issue with it.
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You won't have issues with it, but you also won't get nearly the same synthetic or real-world performance as you can from a 3570k. The problem they have now is that they're way behind on single-core performance and it's doubtful that they can ever catch up. They went after a different prize and they flubbed it. I'm also waiting on the day they can recover their foothold because I'd buy an AMD CPU over Intel but I'm not seeing it.
 
cerebus said:
Again, that has not always been the case and it's bound to change again when Nvidia counters AMD. It's a constant flip flopping between them which is great for the buyer because they're constantly slashing prices down. I can give you many cases where Nvidia have outdone AMD on p/p at the time, and vice versa. Right now though, the advantage is firmly for AMD.


You won't have issues with it, but you also won't get nearly the same synthetic or real-world performance as you can from a 3570k. The problem they have now is that they're way behind on single-core performance and it's doubtful that they can ever catch up. They went after a different prize and they flubbed it. I'm also waiting on the day they can recover their foothold because I'd buy an AMD CPU over Intel but I'm not seeing it.
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Yes, it will likely change, which is why competition is always a good thing, but I have yet to see Nvidia beat AMD on Value for money, perhaps a few years ago, but I cannot confirm that as I have always purchased ATI/AMD cards over Nvidia. I did own a few Nvidia cards, but still prefer the former.

I won't argue on single core performance. If I need to run a strong server I will build an intel system. I will not argue that fact. All I am saying is, the CPU is good enough to run most mainstream apps and games, at the same price, and it has a lot of room for overclocking and messing around with. Intel has restrictions on all of these. I will not try and justify the purchase to anyone, because it does seem like a strange way of looking at things, but to each his own. Another aspect of this is of course how Linux systems handle Multi-core processors, and that you will gain more of a benefit in that scenario.
 
Thanks guys but this noob is now even more confused. I don't want to list supplier prices here but I'll do the following:

-Gigabyte 760 2Gb costs same as Powercolor 7950.
-Gigabyte 760 4gb cheaper than Powercolor R9 280X

My budget is 3k but willing to maybe spend a bit more.
 
Jared176 said:
Thanks guys but this noob is now even more confused. I don't want to list supplier prices here but I'll do the following:

-Gigabyte 760 2Gb costs same as Powercolor 7950.
-Gigabyte 760 4gb cheaper than Powercolor R9 280X

My budget is 3k but willing to maybe spend a bit more.
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Have you considered the gigabyte AMD 7870? Check it out here , it's a very good bang for the buck.
 
both of those are good deals, and I love rebeltech, but the powercolor is a bit cheaper, and they are still pretty good cards.
 
I'm also looking for a decent card. I decided to do a bit of research, and decided I'll do SLI at a later stage, with two GTX 770's. The issue however is, there is something else that caught my eye, that will make even more sense. Two R9 280X ATI cards. My question is, is it worth while to try and crossfire the ATI cards? Should I rather take two 7970's? Will I be able to use the Powercolour cards in Crossfire X configuration?
 
])ragon_\/oid;11497113 said:
I'm also looking for a decent card. I decided to do a bit of research, and decided I'll do SLI at a later stage, with two GTX 770's. The issue however is, there is something else that caught my eye, that will make even more sense. Two R9 280X ATI cards. My question is, is it worth while to try and crossfire the ATI cards? Should I rather take two 7970's? Will I be able to use the Powercolour cards in Crossfire X configuration?
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You will be able to use powercolor cards for crossfire, I don't know too much about the 280x cards yet, but 2 x 7970 cards will be extreme.
 
])ragon_\/oid;11497113 said:
I'm also looking for a decent card. I decided to do a bit of research, and decided I'll do SLI at a later stage, with two GTX 770's. The issue however is, there is something else that caught my eye, that will make even more sense. Two R9 280X ATI cards. My question is, is it worth while to try and crossfire the ATI cards? Should I rather take two 7970's? Will I be able to use the Powercolour cards in Crossfire X configuration?
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2x280X will be a winner! Just wait for the PowerColor PCS cards (the ones that are overclocked out of the box). If you can't wait, then get the normal 280X
 
I have one r9 280x and it handles bf4 at 1200p with everything on ultra extremely well. Crossfire will be overkill unless you have a super high resolution monitor. Will give you a mighty ePenis though
 
Brawler said:
I have one r9 280x and it handles bf4 at 1200p with everything on ultra extremely well. Crossfire will be overkill unless you have a super high resolution monitor. Will give you a mighty ePenis though
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True that!

ePenis... LOL!
 
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