Grass not always greener

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I've been living in London for about 1,5 years and would like to share some experiences and things I've learned

Firstly, I've eaten a lot of humble pie and realised that while there may be different grass, it isn't always greener. I was definitely one of the people that couldn't wait to leave SA and said I'd never miss it or go back. Now I battle daily with if I should return or not. This might make some people angry, I know plenty of people who would love to emigrate but don't have the means. I would say be sure you know what you are looking for before you beside to move

Some of the main things I thought before moving:

- You don't waste money on things that should be covered by taxes, like medical aid and private security.

This is true, although you are taxed quite heavily for it. However, what will really kill you in London is the rent. If you're a single person you're looking at at least £800 to rent one room in a flat in a decent, central area. Yes you can get room for much cheaper further out, if you want to spend 1.5 hours commuting each way. It's not unusual to be spending 50% of your salary on rent, although this mostly applies to people around 20-30 years old I'm sure. You do get some people in their 40's still flat sharing though. For someone like me who previously had a whole house in SA and likes privacy this is very hard

- You save money not needing a car/insurance/maintenance

This is true, and London public transport is amazing until you use it every day. The tube at rush hour isn't fun, and wait till you just want to go home and watch 4 tubes go past because they are all too full to get on. It is, for the most part, reliable though. If you live somewhere where you catch a overground train, you will soon become accustomed to the many delays and train cancellations that will leave you unable to get home without a 2 hour bus detour.

And guess what, there are strikes in the UK too. The rail unions aren't shy to strike, and when there's no tubes you still have to get to work somehow. It's also not cheap. A monthly ticket will cost about £145 for Zone 1-3, all so you can be absolutely crushed on a train, if it does show up. Combine that with your £800 rent and you've spent close to a grand already

-Jobs, there is a good job market in London. What you will realise it that there are also millions of people in London, and no matter what industry you work in there are probably a few hundred people applying for every job you do. I have friends in a few different professions and it can take 6 months to find a new job even if you are well qualified. Unless you really stand out, you are a small fish in a very big pond. While I had a very good job in SA, I haven't been able to find anything at that level again.

- Lifestlye, probably the biggest one for me. You might think you'll have alot more disposable income, but after rent, travel and and savings, there isn't as much as you'd think. Groceries are cheap and their are plenty of specials, which is good. I find going out prohibitively expensive though. It's easy to spend £50-80 on drinks in one night if you go to a bar/club. Restaurants can have good deals, but try avoid drinking out too much. It's hard to find places you could make a braai if you aren't lucky enough to have a garden, and hosting is hard when in a flatshare so you end up going out

I'd say think carefully about what you want before deciding to move. If you want a house with a garden and your own car, these things are possible but certainly not in London. If you're young, don't mind flatsharing, and want to have explore then maybe it's right for you
 
Why don't you move out of London? You'd expect it to be expensive and highly competitive as everyone goes there.
 
Why don't you move out of London? You'd expect it to be expensive and highly competitive as everyone goes there.

I would like to, however as much as I complain about London the jobs are here..by then end of 2017 I expect to either be back in SA or out of London
 
I worked in London many years back when I was a lot younger. Never again - although the salaries are a lot higher the daily tube travel was a killer. Rent and house prices were mental and everything was generally a lot more expensive.

Living in the North West now, house prices cheaper, a lot more greener country side, plenty of jobs and a lot less hustle and bustle.

Wouldn't move down south for all the money in the world.
 
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Hmmm, We're having a braai today at work (Heritage Day), tonight at home (Friends coming from the USA) and on Sunday (Heritage day again with other family)...

Managed to find some Mutton Chops at Makro for R70 a Kilo (it's not Lamb, but it's close enough).

Those are the reasons why I don't want to leave SA. :D
 
Hmmm, We're having a braai today at work (Heritage Day), tonight at home (Friends coming from the USA) and on Sunday (Heritage day again with other family)...

Managed to find some Mutton Chops at Makro for R70 a Kilo (it's not Lamb, but it's close enough).

Those are the reasons why I don't want to leave SA. :D

I have a weber in my back garden and the local shop sells boerewors. Its a lovely 18 degrees today. :D
 
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I have a weber in my back garden and the local shop sells boerewors. Its a lovely 18 degrees today. :D

How much is that Boerewors? I paid R59 a kilo for mine. 3.33 British pounds a kilo.
The temp here right now is 25 degrees!
 
Def not that cheap! :( About 3x that.

Just looking at the last decent sirloin I purchased. 240grams - 2 packs for £7

I guess that forces you to really savour each and every bite!
Enjoy it though, man - I'm glad you have access to it!
 
Hmmm, We're having a braai today at work (Heritage Day), tonight at home (Friends coming from the USA) and on Sunday (Heritage day again with other family)...

Managed to find some Mutton Chops at Makro for R70 a Kilo (it's not Lamb, but it's close enough).

Those are the reasons why I don't want to leave SA. :D

Word. Meat prices, booze prices, rental prices and house/yard sizes.
 
Def not that cheap! :( About 3x that.

Just looking at the last decent sirloin I purchased. 240grams - 2 packs for £7

That's why the English are so *** at rugby. They can't afford to feed the team protein.
 
Wors in SA is the price of viennas in the UK, no wait, thats not true, have you seen the price of viennas these days :wtf:
 
Why don't you move out of London? You'd expect it to be expensive and highly competitive as everyone goes there.

I was about to ask the same thing.

Often see people who lived and work in the suburbs here have similar things to say about London central.

But I'm sure the same would be true if you lived in Cape Town or Johannesburg CBD too.

It's two completely different things.
 
Def not that cheap! :( About 3x that.

Just looking at the last decent sirloin I purchased. 240grams - 2 packs for £7

I heard they were a nanny state but driving up meat prices to make people go vegetarian?! :eek:
 
hahaha. I've got some home made biltong on the go as well. Should be ready by the weekend. Biltong prices here are mental!
 
Oi, greg, how much do the comfort women charge over there. I'm asking for a friend.
 
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