Great WA Update

HavocXphere said:
<snip>If you're gaming on international servers then it depends on the amount of data. If its very little then Titanium or Platinum would be best. If its a lot of data then a cheap ISP + a gaming tunnel service will work out cheaper (YMMV). If money is not an issue then Titanium WA + a gaming tunnel will give best results.<snip>
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What I don't quote understand is why WebAfrica cannot say to me: For WoW, on the EU servers, this the the best product.
Why do they have to be all obtuse and hide behind a pile of dribble?

You telling me that the Platinum product is the best one to use makes me wonder, because I see that, on the platinum product, P2P has the same priority as gaming, this priority setting does simply not make any sense to me whatsoever, because, at 12H30, when all the peeps give up on their raiding, they will kick off the p2p downloads and completely mess up my remaining raid time. Surely gaming should be higher priority than p2p?
 
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davemc said:
What I don't quote understand is why WebAfrica cannot say to me: For WoW, on the EU servers, this the the best product.
Why do they have to be all obtuse and hide behind a pile of dribble?

You telling me that the Platinum product is the best one to use makes me wonder, because I see that, on the platinum product, P2P has the same priority as gaming, this priority setting does simply not make any sense to me whatsoever, because, at 12H30, when all the peeps give up on their raiding, they will kick off the p2p downloads and completely mess up my remaining raid time. Surely gaming should be higher priority than p2p?
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Yeah that is a bit strange. Realistically though nobody is stupid enough to run heavy P2P at WA platinum prices. ;) They'll all be sitting on MWeb uncapped or Titan packages.

If you're a serious WoW player I'd recommend trial and error. These things aren't contract bound, so try a different one each month/week until you find a price/performance trade-off that suits you. Lots of WoW players appear to be happy with a tunneling solution (I don't WoW) and there like R100pm so thats worth a try. Top priority WA cap + tunnel is likely to beat anything out there on raw performance. The performance/price sweetspot is subjective though so you'll have to figure that out on your own.
 
HavocXphere said:
<snip>If you're a serious WoW player I'd recommend trial and error. <snip>
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I am tired of trial and error.
I use a tunneling service.

All I want is a gaming product, one that can actually provide good latency after hours including after midnight and including all weekend.
All the existing products die after midnight and on weekends it's deplorable at best.
WebAfrica used to be the choice product when the other products are misbehaving, but now even the WA product has after midnight and weekend issues.

I am simply not going to bother to spend a cent on these expensive products until the product owners stand up and say:
This is for gaming after work hours and on weekends, with low latency to France and Germany.

In the meantime I will use the cheapest nastiest product that I can get my hands on, because, in the end, it's just as good; i.e. you can still get disconnected during a 10 man battle on the cheap product or on the expensive product.
 
Since WA introduced the "new" shaping system, I can honestly say that gaming performance now sucks and YouTube (or just about any other vid site) buffers 2x-3x as long as before. If you are going to intentionally reduce performance for your existing customers, either reduce the price to match or give your customers enough notice so they can cancel their accounts before you make the changes. I've actually had to borrow a shaped Telkom account, and with it, I now get HALF the latency I get with your account.

I honestly don't see why you need to "manage" the bandwidth for your accounts where people pay per gig. It's my gig, let me do with it whatever I want to. I'll be canceling my accounts with you, but I'm sure you don't really care. There's plenty more suckers out there that will pay for your overpriced (and quite frankly, rubbish) accounts, isn't there?
 
I'm not sure when the "new" system came out, but my performance is just the same as it's always been. I play on some UK/Europe game servers with a ping just over 200, and it's pretty stable.

Only issues I have are the lack of JHB peering which pushes up local latencies a bit, and every now and then it seems that my torrents are a bit slower.
 
davemc said:
I am tired of trial and error.
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I hear you. Perhaps all the WoW people could crowd source this? A dozen people or so could figure out the best product pretty fast...as long as someone solid is coordinating.

davemc said:
I am simply not going to bother to spend a cent on these expensive products until the product owners stand up and say:
This is for gaming after work hours and on weekends, with low latency to France and Germany.
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Unfortunately owners aren't exactly reliable sources. ;) Pretty sure that R19 Axxess unshaped stuff was marketed @gamers and I don't think it did particularly well.
 
HavocXphere said:
I hear you. Perhaps all the WoW people could crowd source this? A dozen people or so could figure out the best product pretty fast...as long as someone solid is coordinating.
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Thing is, it changes constantly, so the initial investigation is moot after 2 weeks.
HavocXphere said:
Unfortunately owners aren't exactly reliable sources. ;) Pretty sure that R19 Axxess unshaped stuff was marketed @gamers and I don't think it did particularly well.
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Aye.
 
I have a Titan account and for the first fews months the service was fantastic. Recently I have noticed a severe degradation in the service. Speed test results barely over 2mbs with a 10MB line, Youtube videos buffer seemingly forever, Skype calls get cut off etc... Now I see they've launched the Home "Smart" packages with a Titanium upgrade to get higher priority bandwidth, the cost of which is double what I am currently paying on the Titan package. Do WebAfrica now expect me to pay double to receive the exact same service I was receiving up until a few weeks ago?!?

If thats the case could someone recommend a decent capped offering where you can still get decent speeds without paying through the nose?
 
PaulMark said:
I have a Titan account and for the first fews months the service was fantastic. Recently I have noticed a severe degradation in the service. Speed test results barely over 2mbs with a 10MB line, Youtube videos buffer seemingly forever, Skype calls get cut off etc... Now I see they've launched the Home "Smart" packages with a Titanium upgrade to get higher priority bandwidth, the cost of which is double what I am currently paying on the Titan package. Do WebAfrica now expect me to pay double to receive the exact same service I was receiving up until a few weeks ago?!?

If thats the case could someone recommend a decent capped offering where you can still get decent speeds without paying through the nose?
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Afrihost
 
Anyone here that have tried out the Home Pro(Get Titanium prioritised bandwidth with lower latency, ensuring you are always ahead of the pack.) from web africa yet with something like World of Warcraft? If so any better than the normal prepaid unshaped account?
http://www.webafrica.co.za/home/data/
 
Techrat said:
Yes why?
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What MVGL said.
Also, you're ruining my potential to enjoy good latency because you're using a hefty hunk of the available bandwidth on a service that does not require low latency.
This is not your fault though, our ISP's simply don't want to provide a low latency overseas gaming product.
 
Pure_Acid said:
Anyone here that have tried out the Home Pro(Get Titanium prioritised bandwidth with lower latency, ensuring you are always ahead of the pack.) from web africa yet with something like World of Warcraft? If so any better than the normal prepaid unshaped account?
http://www.webafrica.co.za/home/data/
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I'm not going to pay 75% extra just to get the same service I got the previous month.
 
juanvh said:
I'm not going to pay 75% extra just to get the same service I got the previous month.
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I agree with juanvh and i feel the same way, but if it is better than the service used last month then that might be a different case.
 
davemc said:
What MVGL said.
Also, you're ruining my potential to enjoy good latency because you're using a hefty hunk of the available bandwidth on a service that does not require low latency.
This is not your fault though, our ISP's simply don't want to provide a low latency overseas gaming product.
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What utter BS. Unless WA's network is total crap (which I don't believe it is even considering recent issues, because I haven't had many problems at all really), my use of my account has no effect on you or anyone else. You will not get a better ping if I don't use my account.

I don't pay all that much for my account, and I can damn well use it for what I want.
 
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