Group threatens farmer

ToxicBunny said:
That starts getting into grey area possibly, and in a country like this where our cultures are generally very much defined by race (in general), they sort of go hand in hand unfortunately.
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Completely agree and that kind of reinforces my point that it's not race but culture/social economic upbringing that perpetuats these horrible actions.
 
thechamp said:
In which culture is torturing cows acceptable?
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I will not admit to knowing anything about slaughtering cows or who has been doing what - my only point is that these horrible actions are not race driven but rather due to the upbringing in which these acts are accepted/promoted.

Ie. Any race person would commit these acts of they were brought up in a culture/etc where it was accepted.
 
ToxicBunny said:
Ahhh..

Everything above the link about cows being tortured and executed is in Red... and from the link (probably), everything below it is his own racist addition...
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Is this the bit that is of concern - ALL of this is so very old -- ALL of it from the days of Mau Mau in Kenya
It would appear that this type of conduct is EMBEDDED in the DNA / GENES of BLACK Africans.

There are facts from the uprising in history and documentation of witnesses saying just that. Kenyan police in the 1950 said that as, the extract reads;

Their brutality sparked a fear amongst the settlers; Anderson reports how even a Kenyan policemen stated after a massacre ‘These people are animals. If I see one now I shall shoot with the greatest eagerness”.
 
OCP said:
I will not admit to knowing anything about slaughtering cows or who has been doing what - my only point is that these horrible actions are not race driven but rather due to the upbringing in which these acts are accepted/promoted.

Ie. Any race person would commit these acts of they were brought up in a culture/etc where it was accepted.
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Cattle was de facto "gold" bullion used by many cultures back in the days. It's therefore a little mischievous to suggest they'd enjoy torturing the very item that defined wealth of the community.
 
smi said:
Is this the bit that is of concern - ALL of this is so very old -- ALL of it from the days of Mau Mau in Kenya
It would appear that this type of conduct is EMBEDDED in the DNA / GENES of BLACK Africans.

There are facts from the uprising in history and documentation of witnesses saying just that. Kenyan police in the 1950 said that as, the extract reads;

Their brutality sparked a fear amongst the settlers; Anderson reports how even a Kenyan policemen stated after a massacre ‘These people are animals. If I see one now I shall shoot with the greatest eagerness”.
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Very much so.. if he hadn't added it, it wouldn't have been racist, merely an uncomfortable truth about what happened in Kenya...
 
ForceFate said:
Cattle was de facto "gold" bullion used by many cultures back in the days. It's therefore a little mischievous to suggest they'd enjoy torturing the very item that defined wealth of the community.
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I'm going to be very controversial, I have seen the laughing from those that cut the legs of our animals. Watching the animal try and drag itself is beyond painful to watch. When these perps where caught, the words they used where, " it's only an cow, so what and where still laughing".

This is in today's world, still makes me question people and more important the trust I have in ANY person anymore.

My experiences have left me, NOT wanting to integrate, how can I when my experiences have scarred me with these visions.

Seems I would be falling into the racist category then.
 
ForceFate said:
Cattle was de facto "gold" bullion used by many cultures back in the days. It's therefore a little mischievous to suggest they'd enjoy torturing the very item that defined wealth of the community.
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I think over a certain age, you would possibly have a point from a cultural point of view...

Many of the youngsters these days don't have those cultural values, and are just cruel fsckers. (and this stretches way beyond just this country, or any specific cultures)
 
ToxicBunny said:
Very much so.. if he hadn't added it, it wouldn't have been racist, merely an uncomfortable truth about what happened in Kenya...
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Then it sadly seems, I would be in the racist category as my experiences are exactly what he said.

As i said in a previous post, I don't want to integrate, my trust does not go there anymore
 
smi said:
Then it sadly seems, I would be in the racist category as my experiences are exactly what he said.
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Fair enough...

I don't deny there is a segment of our population which unfortunately falls largely along racial lines that are cruel evil fsckers like this, but I don't automatically assume all people of a certain colour are cruel and evil fsckers.
 
ToxicBunny said:
Fair enough...

I don't deny there is a segment of our population which unfortunately falls largely along racial lines that are cruel evil fsckers like this, but I don't automatically assume all people of a certain colour are cruel and evil fsckers.
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I certainly don't go out spewing anti black rhetoric, that is just idiotic. I have met decent people, I'd consider myself normal, just my experiences question everything now.
 
smi said:
I certainly don't go out spewing anti black rhetoric, that is just idiotic. I have met decent people, I'd consider myself normal, just my experiences question everything now.
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Then I would personally not call you a racist, merely pragmatic due to life experiences.
 
crocopede said:
Sad but true. SAHRC is officially against the minorities, the Police do jack sht, the court sides with majorities now. Face it. Your rights as a person, if you fall in the minorities, have been revoked.

Hell, you even get prosecuted from killing someone in self-defense in your own home. Why do I even need to prove the 3 men with machetes and pistols were not invited over for a tea party at 3am in the morning?

Honestly, who has tea parties at 3am?
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But, but, whites aren't marginalised and aren't allowed to have robust discussions.
 
konfab said:
Why do you need a court interdict to get the police to enforce the law?

Do the cretins in government not think that this means that only the rich get protection of the law?
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Because, people don't need permission to protest anymore.
 
smi said:
Yeah, but still I should try and be more open, although hard that may be.
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I believe everyone has a story to tell (to paraphrase the comrades). However, it's when one uses those experiences to define an entire race that I have a problem with.

Personally, I give a person benefit of the doubt until they let loose a brain fart.
 
Fulcrum29 said:
Because, people don't need permission to protest anymore.
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The “trouble-causers” have also been ordered not to burn tyres, logs, trees, plantations, building structures or any substance on the farms.
The application was brought on an urgent basis by advocate Chris Snyman, SC, before Judge Piet Koen following protest action that worsened at the farm this week.
Trees were set alight and farm workers were prevented from going to work, farm owner Maxwell Anderson said in court papers.
The protesters are unhappy that the farm has employed six Zimbabweans and are demanding they be fired, he said.
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Fulcrum29 said:
After or before the act of protesting?
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The attack on Thursday night took place hours after an urgent court interdict was obtained from the Pietermaritzburg High Court.

Anderson said there was a delay in serving the interdict to the attackers because police needed back-up. He said it was only formally issued on Friday.
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