Hacking in SA

Necropolis

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Lol! Excellent read - memory lane :)

Sounds like the good old days where IRC was pretty much the only "IM" service out there :p

/gzline Breacher!*@*.myip.co.za 24h :D

Which servers did you guys chat on in those days?

I used the following over the years:

ZAnet
LagNet
Shadowfire

And one or 2 others whose name escapes me.

IRC was the best - but social media all but killed it locally.
 

breacher

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Remember all of those, also frequented them :)

Also BlabberNet and the strictest IRC network of all time (rule wise) - M-Web's IRC Servers (chat-pta.mweb.co.za & irc.mweb.co.za) :D

Is IceAngel and/or Warlock (M-Web Mods) perhaps on here? :D

What do you guys use mostly to "IM" now with random people?
 

gregmcc

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Ahh back in the days....toll free numbers to Swift + a blue box :)
 
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Insider Threat Model

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From SA to USA
I'm sorry, I'm not so sharp, please explain?
I have a deep understanding of Call-Control and Signaling in SS#7 and ANSI-A7 so feel free to be as technical as you'd like regarding SS#5, which I have a little knowledge on.
 

etienne_marais

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I'm sorry, I'm not so sharp, please explain?
I have a deep understanding of Call-Control and Signaling in SS#7 and ANSI-A7 so feel free to be as technical as you'd like regarding SS#5, which I have a little knowledge on.

Don't know if we should share the exact details, but it entails the fact that 5 uses DTMF signals for control signals (in-band). I think most of the old
equipment has been replaced in most countries anyway.
 
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Don't know if we should share the exact details, but it entails the fact that 5 uses DTMF signals for control signals (in-band). I think most of the old
equipment has been replaced in most countries anyway.

This is wrong for the following lay reasons:
Dial Tone Multi Frequency uses different frequencies. Thus onward propagation of the exploit is impossible.
DTMF is not call-control capable without implicit context as well (press 1 to continue, 2 to hang up etc).

P.S. These were considerations for SS#7 design.
 

etienne_marais

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This is wrong for the following lay reasons:
Dial Tone Multi Frequency uses different frequencies. Thus onward propagation of the exploit is impossible.
DTMF is not call-control capable without implicit context as well (press 1 to continue, 2 to hang up etc).

P.S. These were considerations for SS#7 design.

Ok, you're the expert
 
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Ok, you're the expert

Hardly, but this information and knowledge is fundamental to the exploit.
One doesn't just accidentally propagate a legacy exploit through a new protocol and complete design change. Moreover, one does not allude to doing it without being called out on it.
Tapping out E-M pulse on a Telkom DISA cradle does not a phreaker make.
 

diskette

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I used the following over the years:

ZAnet
LagNet
Shadowfire

And one or 2 others whose name escapes me.

IRC was the best - but social media all but killed it locally.
IRC is still king in my heart.

It's where les academics are and usenet too.
 
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