Have you noticed something about 6's?

[Maverick Jester]

The internet is too serious these days...

 

[Skrilla]

The internet is too serious these days...

Totally.

 

[TehStranger]

The internet is too serious these days...

The Internet has been srs buznes since the dawn of time, never going to change.

 

[Ancalagon]

I don't get why people get so bent out of shape when people talk about physical attractiveness or having standards when it comes to looks.

The thing is, everybody on this Earth will have some kind of preference when it comes to looks. But they will say, oh no, I look at what is on the inside. Please, stop it. Stop lying to yourself, and stop lying to us.

Both men and women are shallow in every respect. Everyone is equally shallow. Women will not date short men - period. You might date an ugly tall man, but you will not date a good looking short man. You just won't - unless he has lots of money. Some women, but not all, are shallow in the money/career aspect too. Some of them will try to hide it - I want a man with ambition, they will say. Where does ambition lead - money!

Men will, in most cases, not date fatties. Some will not date flat chested women. Most will prefer to not date ugly women.

And even without the physical stuff, when you think of whether someone could suit you as a partner, you are thinking shallowly, I guarantee it. You are thinking what can I get from that person? Sex? Excitement? Money (sometimes)? Validation from my peers that I bagged a hottie? Self esteem? Even if you pride yourself on your ideals for going for someone who is not great looking, I still guarantee that your motives, at least initially, are completely shallow.

Why? You simply do not know the person well enough to have anything but shallow motives. You don't know them and you don't love them.

Don't think I am jaded. I really don't mind that people are shallow - I don't think it is worth judging people for being shallow. What I don't like is when people get on their high horse and claim to be non-shallow, when actually they are completely shallow.

 

[Maverick Jester]

The Internet has been srs buznes since the dawn of time, never going to change.

 

[TehStranger]

*Scumbag [-]Steve[/-] TehStranger*

Every now and then you have to bring some seriousity into these discussions. I prefer to think of myself as this:

 

[Nick333]

I don't get why people get so bent out of shape when people talk about physical attractiveness or having standards when it comes to looks.

The thing is, everybody on this Earth will have some kind of preference when it comes to looks. But they will say, oh no, I look at what is on the inside. Please, stop it. Stop lying to yourself, and stop lying to us.

Both men and women are shallow in every respect. Everyone is equally shallow. Women will not date short men - period. You might date an ugly tall man, but you will not date a good looking short man. You just won't - unless he has lots of money. Some women, but not all, are shallow in the money/career aspect too. Some of them will try to hide it - I want a man with ambition, they will say. Where does ambition lead - money!

Men will, in most cases, not date fatties. Some will not date flat chested women. Most will prefer to not date ugly women.

And even without the physical stuff, when you think of whether someone could suit you as a partner, you are thinking shallowly, I guarantee it. You are thinking what can I get from that person? Sex? Excitement? Money (sometimes)? Validation from my peers that I bagged a hottie? Self esteem? Even if you pride yourself on your ideals for going for someone who is not great looking, I still guarantee that your motives, at least initially, are completely shallow.

Why? You simply do not know the person well enough to have anything but shallow motives. You don't know them and you don't love them.

Don't think I am jaded. I really don't mind that people are shallow - I don't think it is worth judging people for being shallow. What I don't like is when people get on their high horse and claim to be non-shallow, when actually they are completely shallow.

+1 Well said.

 

[Maverick Jester]

Every now and then you have to bring some seriousity into these discussions. I prefer to think of myself as this:

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Bwahahahahahaha, 10 internets to you...

 

[Zewp]

Bull****. If someone says absolutely everyone is shallow then they're simply projecting. Yes, a lot of people are shallow. In fact, maybe the majority of people are shallow. It's a selfish world we live in. But we're not all shallow.

I'll agree that people do have subjective standards when it comes to who they'll date. I won't date someone who smokes, I won't date someone who is unhygienic, I won't date someone who is obese. But if I meet an average joe who is maybe a little overweight and I get along well with him, I won't refuse to date him simply because he is doesn't fit in somewhere on some arbitrary objective rating scale. And let's not kid ourselves, there is some form of objectivity to the scale OP was talking about.

Sorry if this means I'm on some 'high horse' or anything, but if you're shallow then you're lame. If you believe everyone in the world is shallow, then yes, you are completely jaded. I'm very glad I don't move around in the circles Ancalagon moves around in, because it must be depressing as **** to be surrounded by people like that. It's probably the same kind of people who believe every relationship has a reacher and a settler. It's so ridiculous and unnecessary.

 

[Nick333]

Bull****. If someone says absolutely everyone is shallow then they're simply projecting. Yes, a lot of people are shallow. In fact, maybe the majority of people are shallow. It's a selfish world we live in. But we're not all shallow.

I'll agree that people do have subjective standards when it comes to who they'll date. I won't date someone who smokes, I won't date someone who is unhygienic, I won't date someone who is obese. But if I meet an average joe who is maybe a little overweight and I get along well with him, I won't refuse to date him simply because he is doesn't fit in somewhere on some arbitrary objective rating scale. And let's not kid ourselves, there is some form of objectivity to the scale OP was talking about.

Sorry if this means I'm on some 'high horse' or anything, but if you're shallow then you're lame. If you believe everyone in the world is shallow, then yes, you are completely jaded. I'm very glad I don't move around in the circles Ancalagon moves around in, because it must be depressing as **** to be surrounded by people like that. It's probably the same kind of people who believe every relationship has a reacher and a settler. It's so ridiculous and unnecessary.

So, basically you do have some standards but, you feel justified judging people who have different standards? The only difference between you and Ancalagon or me or anyone else is a matter of degree. You don't have to like people with higher standards for physical attraction (although why you would dislike them is beyond me since we all like what we like) but really, in what ways people are attracted to other people affects you in no way what so ever.

 

[Zewp]

So, basically you do have some standards but, you feel justified judging people who have different standards? The only difference between you and Ancalagon or me or anyone else is a matter of degree. You don't have to like people with higher standards for physical attraction (although why you would dislike them is beyond me since we all like what we like) but really, in what ways people are attracted to other people affects you in no way what so ever.

No, you're confusing high standards with being shallow. They're not the same thing. Refusing to date someone who is dirty or smokes is called having standards. Refusing to even give someone a chance because they're average looking and not a bombshell is called being shallow.

 

[Nick333]

No, you're confusing high standards with being shallow. They're not the same thing. Refusing to date someone who is dirty or smokes is called having standards. Refusing to even give someone a chance because they're average looking and not a bombshell is called being shallow.

/shakes head

 

[Ancalagon]

Bull****. If someone says absolutely everyone is shallow then they're simply projecting. Yes, a lot of people are shallow. In fact, maybe the majority of people are shallow. It's a selfish world we live in. But we're not all shallow.

I'll agree that people do have subjective standards when it comes to who they'll date. I won't date someone who smokes, I won't date someone who is unhygienic, I won't date someone who is obese. But if I meet an average joe who is maybe a little overweight and I get along well with him, I won't refuse to date him simply because he is doesn't fit in somewhere on some arbitrary objective rating scale. And let's not kid ourselves, there is some form of objectivity to the scale OP was talking about.

Sorry if this means I'm on some 'high horse' or anything, but if you're shallow then you're lame. If you believe everyone in the world is shallow, then yes, you are completely jaded. I'm very glad I don't move around in the circles Ancalagon moves around in, because it must be depressing as **** to be surrounded by people like that. It's probably the same kind of people who believe every relationship has a reacher and a settler. It's so ridiculous and unnecessary.

The difference between you and me is that I admit to being a little shallow, while you get offended at the idea.

I know you have other criteria which you aren't telling us. And chances are that you could meet someone who is a little overweight and not bad looking, and not be attracted to him. Maybe it is because of the shoes he wears or because he is too short. Maybe it is because he has not travelled enough or is not open minded enough for you. Maybe because he is not educated enough. Maybe because of his background, or because of mental scars that he has.

I believe that people judge other people for miniscule and trivial things, and people just don't like to admit it. Look at how offended you get at the idea that you, too, might be judgmental.

What I can tell you without knowing is that you will form a perception of someone within seconds of meeting them, and that is the definition of shallow. Yes, your perception can change, the point is that the judgment call that you make within seconds of meeting someone is by definition shallow.

And saying that you have high standards with regards to smoking and obesity or what not is just a shortcut for saying you immediately remove those people from your possible dating list. In other words, the personality of a smoker or an obese person does not matter to you. You will not even evaluate their personality. Still think you aren't shallow?

 

[wolverine_dcp]

I noticed something about women that are 6s (6/10 <kinda attractive>) generally women who are 6s are really more fussy and a lot more egotistical then say your average 7 or 8. A lot of them carry on as if they are a 9/10 or higher. As a reacher (a man who goes for women who is more attractive then himself) I'll have more a luck going for a women who is 7/10 then a 6/10 and also their attitudes are like night and day. I've found them 6s in general to be demanding, controlling and like to act as if their better than everybody else and like to put other women down...... That's from my experience anyway

When last did you get a good press ....hoes and prostitutes not counted

 

[Pho3nix]

/shakes head

+1

 

[TehStranger]

Let me explain why you’re wrong.

Bull****. If someone says absolutely everyone is shallow then they're simply projecting. Yes, a lot of people are shallow. In fact, maybe the majority of people are shallow. It's a selfish world we live in. But we're not all shallow.

No, everyone is shallow in some way. Not some people. Not most people. Everyone. It’s in the same vein as your “everyone is insecure about something” comment.

I'll agree that people do have subjective standards when it comes to who they'll date. I won't date someone who smokes, I won't date someone who is unhygienic, I won't date someone who is obese. But if I meet an average joe who is maybe a little overweight and I get along well with him, I won't refuse to date him simply because he is doesn't fit in somewhere on some arbitrary objective rating scale. And let's not kid ourselves, there is some form of objectivity to the scale OP was talking about.

Hang on a sec. You refuse to date obese people, cool. So why are you talking about Joe who is a little overweight? He isn’t obese, so he should be factored in here.

Consider this:

We have Joe, Joe is slightly overweight, hung like a stallion, has the facial features of Brad Pitt (or whoever you find incredibly attractive), is an incredibly nice person, and is one of the most unhygienic slugs ever to slither across the face of this earth.

Overweight but not obese: 1/1 (he scores a point for not being in a no-no category)
Hung like a stallion: 1/1 (he scores a point for being in a yes-yes category)
Has a pleasing face: 1/1 (he scores a point for being in a yes-yes category)
Is incredibly nice: 1/1 (he scores a point for being in a yes-yes category)
Unhygenic: 0/1 (no point for Joe)
Total score: 4/5, would not bang

I don’t see why the scale has to be arbitrary, why can’t you numerically represent your feeling on a particular person?

Sorry if this means I'm on some 'high horse' or anything, but if you're shallow then you're lame. If you believe everyone in the world is shallow, then yes, you are completely jaded.

In that case everyone in the world is lame and I’m jaded, I can live with that.

I'm very glad I don't move around in the circles Ancalagon moves around in, because it must be depressing as **** to be surrounded by people like that. It's probably the same kind of people who believe every relationship has a reacher and a settler. It's so ridiculous and unnecessary.

It’s not depressing, just different. I know being different is scary sometimes, but just try and see if you can keep an open mind.

No, you're confusing high standards with being shallow. They're not the same thing. Refusing to date someone who is dirty or smokes is called having standards. Refusing to even give someone a chance because they're average looking and not a bombshell is called being shallow.

Lol, ok, just read this, ignore the above, seems this is a bit beyond you.

/Joins Nick and Phoenix shaking heads

 

[Ancalagon]

As I said, refusing to date someone for things like being unhygienic or being obese means that essentially you do not care to even get to know that person before making a decision. That is shallow since you never take the personality into account.

 

[Maverick Jester]

No, you're confusing high standards with being shallow. They're not the same thing. Refusing to date someone who is dirty or smokes is called having standards. Refusing to even give someone a chance because they're average looking and not a bombshell is called being shallow.

lolwut?

 

[Zewp]

>snip<

Ah, I see what you're doing. You're equating having preferences to being shallow. Everyone has preferences. What is shallow is refusing to even give someone a chance if they don't match your preferences 100%.

In this thread we've got guys saying they would refuse to date anyone under a '6' and the like. They're essentially basing this entirely on the person's looks. That is as shallow as you get. It's not really comparable to refusing to date someone because they smoke or are obese, because aside from some extreme cases in the latter, both are things that people choose or have control over. Looks are not something someone has control over.

Regardless, this is all tiresome waffling about semantics. The bottom line is that if your dating decisions rely entirely on looks, as is implied in the OP, then you are a shallow ****. There's more to a person than just looks.

 

[Jehosefat]

There's more to a person than just looks.

There's more to a person than whether they smoke or not.