HD decoder and Vista

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Do you think that the following card will work with Vista and the HD decoder. I am not sure if Vista would see this as a tuner card.

Also I am not sure about the security issues and encryption.

Here's the link.
 
The way I see it, it's not a tuner card.
It's not capable of capturing, it only outputs video and audio.
 
I thought that if this card accepted an HDMi input signal, both video and audio then we could still use our HTPC's with the new HD decoder.
 
getafix33 said:
I thought that if this card accepted an HDMi input signal, both video and audio then we could still use our HTPC's with the new HD decoder.
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The easiest way, like I said on MCE forum, is to buy a HDMI splitter and a HDMI down converter. Send the signal from the splitter to your down converter (other end to TV) and then to your HTPC with your standard Hauppauge card.

Then we need to hope the Multichoice decoder will work with the HTPC remote system.
For now I'll stick with my 720i decoder + MCE rather than a 1 channel HDTV rerun PVR.
 
zeb said:
The easiest way, like I said on MCE forum, is to buy a HDMI splitter and a HDMI down converter. Send the signal from the splitter to your down converter (other end to TV) and then to your HTPC with your standard Hauppauge card.

Then we need to hope the Multichoice decoder will work with the HTPC remote system.
For now I'll stick with my 720i decoder + MCE rather than a 1 channel HDTV rerun PVR.
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Why would you want to down sample HD ?
If you want to capture HD (upto 1080i), try the Hauppauge HD-PVR (2212 ??)

To answer the OP's question: yes it will... but will it work for your intended purpose?
 
Is there any PCI Tuner card that can replace the HD-Decoder from Multichoice on the market? So a Digital HD card with Smart card slot?
 
yeldoom said:
Why would you want to down sample HD ?
If you want to capture HD (upto 1080i), try the Hauppauge HD-PVR (2212 ??)

To answer the OP's question: yes it will... but will it work for your intended purpose?
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That Hauppauge has no HDMi input so it's of no use.
You want to downsample in order to record a manageable size video on a Windows Media Center PC.
Raw HiDef video will fill your harddrive faster than you can imagine.
 
zeb said:
That Hauppauge has no HDMi input so it's of no use.
You want to downsample in order to record a manageable size video on a Windows Media Center PC.
Raw HiDef video will fill your harddrive faster than you can imagine.
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Surely the Dstv decoder has component out :confused:
Once again I'm confused about this HD thing and saving space....
You spent mega bucks on your HD TV and HD-PVR but want to record in SD to save space :eek:

p.s
Hope you don't start a "why is HDMI better than component" argument.
 
yeldoom said:
That would be an ideal setup, only problem would be the decoder-smart card marriage issue.
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Cant they marry it to the PCI card?
What happens if someone imports a different brand HD decoder from lets say China... a ChingChong HD-PVR? Is he now all of a sudden not allowed to use it?
 
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Vegeta said:
Cant they marry it to the PCI card?
What happens if someone imports a different brand HD decoder from lets say China... a ChingChong HD-PVR? Is he now all of a sudden not allowed to use it?
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It's sad I know... that's why you have to take your decoder and smart card with you when you go to your holiday home. Read the Dstv forums for more info.
 
yeldoom said:
It's sad I know... that's why you have to take your decoder and smart card with you when you go to your holiday home. Read the Dstv forums for more info.
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Isnt that anti-competitive behaviour though!?!? They are effectively creating an monopoly market for themselves someone needs to inform the authorities! Would that be ICSA :sick:
 
yeldoom said:
Surely the Dstv decoder has component out :confused:
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No it doesn't. That would render HDCP useless.

yeldoom said:
Once again I'm confused about this HD thing and saving space....
You spent mega bucks on your HD TV and HD-PVR but want to record in SD to save space :eek:
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You sure are. You have to understand that people want to use the decoder with a Media Center PC.

yeldoom said:
p.s
Hope you don't start a "why is HDMI better than component" argument.
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Why would I?
You don't seem to grasp the basic functions of a HTPC or the Multichoice HD-PVR so I'll leave it to you ;)
 
Does anybody know if Multichoice will release a standard HD decoder without the PVR functionality?

I would like to keep Windows Media Centre and then get an HD TV Tuner card.
Is there a way of getting past HDCP?

Then what type of HD TVTuner card is compatible with Media Centre? I dont see any on the local market yet.
 
JasonX said:
Does anybody know if Multichoice will release a standard HD decoder without the PVR functionality?

I would like to keep Windows Media Centre and then get an HD TV Tuner card.
Is there a way of getting past HDCP?

Then what type of HD TVTuner card is compatible with Media Centre? I dont see any on the local market yet.
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Yes to get rid of the HDCP and get pure 1080p or i signal you
need the HD Fury.

http://www.hdfury.com/

In fact there is now a HD Fury 2:
http://www.curtpalme.com/HDFury2.shtm

HDfury2 Specifications:

INPUT: Digital HDMI 19p FEMALE Port (100% digital)
OUTPUT: Analog RGBHV or Component (YPbPr/YCbCr) via HD-15 D-Sub (VGA style) MALE connector
User Selectable RGBHV / Component (YPbPr/YCbCr) output with a switch
A HDMI -> HDMI cable is used to connect to an HDMI source
RGB 4:4:4 (8 bits) digital input
YCbCr 4:4:4 or 4:2:2 digital input
Compatible with non-HDCP (DVI-D) or HDCP sources
Compatible with any RGB Display
Compatible with any YUV Display
Directly connects to a display's VGA (RGB) 15 pin D-Sub input
Directly connects to a display's Component (YPbPr/YCbCr) input using included breakout cable
Takes less then 1 minute to install (Plug & Play)
11bit 200MHz data processing
Triple 11bit 200Mhz video DAC
RGB-H/V Male Port D-SUB 15 Output video analog signals (0.7Vpp (RGB) / 1Vpp (YPbPr) over 75 ohms impedance)
Ultra short Analog links (<1 cm) on the HDfury2 for optimal quality
HDMI video bandwidth: 25-165MHz
HDMI Data Rate - Bandwidth 1.5 Gbit/sec (Single link)
Supports all HD/SDTV formats from 1080p down to 480i
HDTV ready (480i/480p/576i/576p/720p/1080i/1080p48/50/60 compatible)
DVI 1.0 compliant
HDMI 1.1 and 1.2 ready
HDMI 1.3 interoperable
HDCP compatible with embedded keys loaded
HDCP ready
Reprogrammable Firmware (with specialized tools)
Screen position adjustable through Firmware and Custom Profile
Accepts third party accessories on output such as the GAMMA-X (Gamma Correction)
Automatic Input Format Detection: Digital YCbCr and RGBHV
Full dynamic range for all input modes to maximize the level of detail
Automatically switches color-spaces for both HDTV (Rec.709) and SDTV (Rec.601)
Precise black levels - no black crush in any standard mode
Stereo High-Quality Analog Audio Output
Stereo High-Quality Digital/Optical Audio Output (S/PDIF format)
HD-DVD and Blu-Ray Disc player compatible
Playstation3 and Xbox360 compatible
Satellite and Cable set-top box compatible for HDTV
HDMI or DVI-D video graphics card compatible
HDCP compatible with embedded keys loaded
Energy management : DVI and VESA DPMS compatible
Ultra low power consumption in Standby (3,5mA)
Maximum power : 0.37A under 5V (at 1080p/60)
On-board DC/DC converter (1.8V) with extra-low EMI signature
Power +5V from DVI/HDMI
Blue LED to display active digital link and power status
Small size : 75x56mm cabinet
100% ROHS compliant (Restriction of Hazardous Substances Directive)
Installation: The HDfury2 module may be DIRECTLY screwed to the back of the display into the VGA SUB-D plug.
Shortest RGB and Component (YPbPr) analog video link as possible.
HDCP rules compliant: No end-user access to decrypted analog video. Once screwed, this module becomes "a part of the display itself".
Professional factory made (mass-production) using pick/place and reflow/wave solder pro equipment.
Gold Plated connectors, tracks and material
Full aluminium case with thermal dissipation

Optional +5v input and power supply
EDID detective feature: EDID eprom can be reprogrammed using a computer through the graphics card (feature reserved for professionals)
Internal EDID EEPROM with complete CEA861 extension block
One year warranty
 
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Nice, I see it sells for R1299 from http://www.hdcabling.co.za.

Question:
If I do the following.

HDMI output from Decoder to HDMI input of Tuner Card, then HDMI out via Graphics Card to HDMI input on TV.

Can this be done, and if so can I do the recording on my pc. What exactly does HDCP prohibit and do I then need the HD Fury as all connections would be HDMI?
 
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