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[PostmanPot]

Progressive vs interlaced actually has nothing to do with motion blur.

Did you watch the video? Is he wrong?

Then please tell me why 720p is better for sport.

Perhaps I used the wrong term (motion blur)?

 

[Dolby]

I paid a premium for 100hz over 50hz because I thought - and still of the opinion - the difference was quite large?

Scrolling text (or anything) should be a large enough difference?

For the record, I went into the store to purchase a 50hz Sony Bravia and walked with a 100hz Samsung 6 Series

 

[Roman4604]

Scrolling text (or anything) should be a large enough difference?

This is the 1st thing I checked, having previously been aware of the noticable difference between 50Hz (interlaced) & 100Hz (double buffered) on CRTs. But on digital panels (all lines active) the difference doesnt seem to be the same (to me).

Looking at ch 200 (SS Blitz) off the HDPVR via HDMI and the text scrolling along the bottom is clear & moving fluidly without any judder. Even flipped to RF input from my SDPVR and while the text is a bit more fuzzy its still not juddering as it moves.

 

[Dolby]

Maybe I'm more into perfection than you?

In a movie of 90 minutes there may only be 5 minutes of a scene where it is noticeable - but those 5 minutes count and I'd (personally) prefer a TV where I knew those 5 minutes could be better. Those 5 minutes were enough for to go the 100hz route after seeing a 50hz and 100hz side by side with the same input

EDIT : My source hasn't been DSTV. I've used it with rips (480, 720 and 1080), standard DVD and upscaled DVD - and BR

 

[PostmanPot]

Maybe I'm more into perfection than you?

In a movie of 90 minutes there may only be 5 minutes of a scene where it is noticeable - but those 5 minutes count and I'd (personally) prefer a TV where I knew those 5 minutes could be better. Those 5 minutes were enough for to go the 100hz route after seeing a 50hz and 100hz side by side with the same input

EDIT : My source hasn't been DSTV. I've used it with rips (480, 720 and 1080), standard DVD and upscaled DVD - and BR

Roman says that there won't be a difference between 5 Series and 6 Series playing Blu-ray in terms of motion because Blu-rays run at 24Hz to match the 24 fps movies are filmed in which Series 5 handles. So the only reason it may appear better is because of other factors that make the 6 Series better, besides its 100Hz motion.

Your thoughts?

 

[PostmanPot]

Answered - http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1217805

 

[Roman4604]

Your thoughts?

Not really sure, dont have a 6 series to test on. If we're talking about Bluray rips (or equiv), then I would think the 6 series has a more powerful media player (DSP chip), I know my 5 series isnt very competent above 720p.

If were talking about a real Bluray disc playing off a Bluray player (25-50GB of source data), logically I dont see how there would be that much difference. Each set would be fed a signal at its native 1920x1080 resolution & display mode (progressive scan).

On the 5 series, all its signal processing circuitry should be sitting idle, there's really nothing for it to do. If the 6 is frame doubling the input Hz (creating intermediate interpolated frames) then I suppose it can give motion a smoother look, but it is introducing artificial information that wasnt meant to be there.

At the end of the day the benefit would be up to the eye of the beholder.

 

[PostmanPot]

If the 6 is frame doubling the input Hz (creating intermediate interpolated frames) then I suppose it can give motion a smoother look, but it is introducing artificial information that wasnt meant to be there.

I take it this would really irk you?

 

[roLLz]

And what is a 'normal' (old school) TV?

480i at most i think. Stand to be corrected though

 

[Roman4604]

I take it this would really irk you?

Why would it, I have no issue with motion on Bluray at its default 24Hz.

 

[PostmanPot]

Why would it, I have no issue with motion on Bluray at its default 24Hz.

Artificial information that wasnt meant to be there.

 

[genetic]

480i at most i think. Stand to be corrected though

It's 576i for us in PAL land

480i only applies to NTSC countries.

 

[noxibox]

At normal viewing distances, displays smaller than 127cm (50") do not generally benefit from a horizontal resolution higher than 720.

At recommended viewing distances they do, but people typically sit too far from their TV. That 50" figure is basically something arbitrarily made up.

 

[PostmanPot]

At recommended viewing distances they do, but people typically sit too far from their TV. That 50" figure is basically something arbitrarily made up.

I agree. They're probably only taking in the typically too far viewing distances of most people.