-
Join the MyBroadband community
South Africa’s biggest forum. Discuss, discover, and connect with thousands of members.
-
Question of the Day: How do you normally pay for purchases in stores?
HDMI is on its way out
- Thread starter nivek
- Start date
Smurfatefrog
Expert Member
That's what someone said when we only had bunny ears & SABC 20 years ago
Durandal
Expert Member
20 years, yes. Not 3 of 4 = there's the problem: the technology is moving too quickly. Everyone expects advances to take place, but this is too much too soon. I see Kheiron's point, but by the same token I guarantee that by the time the new cables are out, there will be better options. So really, what IS the point? I personally feel that the consumer is reaching saturation point.
drew137
Well-Known Member
You can buy the cat 5 to HDMI adaptor already to allow runs of up to 50m you just require 2 x cat 5 cables. Makro stocks the adaptors already!
Wasp_21
Expert Member
As I said earlier, adapters!!! And next they'll be saying there's no loss of quality through the adapter. Why not just keep your HDMI - HDMI. No adapters needed.
Quantum Theory
Executive Member
This is obviously not the same standard. Also, you get extenders that run on 1 x cat 5/6 cable...
I'm sure there will be converters from HDMi to HDBaseT and the other way around. This is a good change and I hope the uptake will be relatively quick. There are loads of issues with HDMi, especially when you start switching and splitting to screens with different manufacturers and resolutions etc. I'm hoping that HDBaseT will not have the same issues!
murraybiscuit
Executive Member
i'm sure they can all agree that they're losing out to hdmi.
i'm not so sure that they'll be able to agree on the finer points of the standard as there's way too much allure to make something proprietary.
especially with sony involved...
i'm not so sure that they'll be able to agree on the finer points of the standard as there's way too much allure to make something proprietary.
especially with sony involved...
Lawnchairman
Expert Member
Its also because of new LCD TV's coming with standard ethernet jacks and can you imagine the different adapters and converters that will now appear on the market to support this new standard.
Obviously no one really knows what the future will hold... but tcp/ip seems here to stay.. and if this is based on that, why bother with anything else. This can potentially send anything over the cable. Never mind just video/audio => pretty future proof.
the graduate
Senior Member
Agreed...
this is a good thing in any event....one cable can do it all..I mean, all that's transmitted is a bunch of zeros and ones anyway...where's the loss in quality...
its all good....until your TV gets an IP address and this address gets blocked if you don't pay your TV license...
I am Penguin
Executive Member
- Joined
- Jan 26, 2009
- Messages
- 7,712
- Reaction score
- 38
IdlePhaedrus
Expert Member
- Joined
- Jan 31, 2005
- Messages
- 1,621
- Reaction score
- 500
I have really enjoyed this thread. This is why:
I have a 28" Loewe TV which I bought in the UK about nine years ago. It is a 100hz 1080 line CRT which has two SCART and one DVI connections. At the time the only competition was the 100hz Sony Wega, and I chose the Loewe set because I am not a big fan of Sony. About two weeks ago my beautiful TV fizzled and I had to make a decision. Get a nice new shiny LCD or Plasma or have the old set repaired at R3000 for a new LOPT and associated components.
So I did a bunch of research and went looking. The new LCD sets looked great, but they were all playing HD content in the shops, but the moment the content switched to SD, there simply wasn't a comparison, the old Loewe just did a much better job on colour, clarity and contrast. LCD was out of the question as 99% of my viewing pleasure is still SD.
The Plasmas were better IMHO (possibly because most of them only have to upscale to HD Ready), but they only come in 40 and 50 inch in ZA which was a beyond my price range. I was a little annoyed at the lack of choice with regard to Plasma in ZA, it is almost as if the major manufacturers have decided on our behalf that LCD is the way to go.
I fell in love with the Panasonic 40 or 42 inch plasma, it is truly a beautiful piece of kit, but it was way beyond my budget at R14000.
The new LED LCDs look great too, but I couldn't get to see one playing SD and also well beyond my budget, so not an option anyway.
I was bemused and confused, and didn't really know what to do, then I found this thread and did some more research and found this article: http://forum.ecoustics.com/bbs/messages/34579/122868.html which compares DVI vs HDMI vs Component Video.
I promptly had my old Loewe repaired and am very happy that I did, why, because the connection is not very important unless you have specific length requirements, what IS important is the electronics in the device that transmits the signal and the device that consumes the signal.
HDBaseT for AV looks great, I think it is a good idea, it stretches longer, there are no royalty fees involved like HDMI, and has been a standard in the IT industry for a long time, but at the end of the day it is just another way of connecting two AV devices together. In theory it should be cheaper than HDMI for you and me, but it will not necessarily define the quality of image on the screen at the end of the chain.
Also, HDMI looks to me like more like a mechanism to enforce DRM (which has prodigiously failed), with the added bonus of royalty fees for the inventor than a real attempt at improving signals between two AV devices.
Of course, HDBaseT could well fall within that category too and you can bet your bottom dollar that that is why the big players are looking into this standard (Sony again). It has little to do with how it might improve your viewing experience, but has a lot to do with improving their bottom line and an attempt to enforce DRM on behalf of the content providers (Sony again).:wtf:
I have a 28" Loewe TV which I bought in the UK about nine years ago. It is a 100hz 1080 line CRT which has two SCART and one DVI connections. At the time the only competition was the 100hz Sony Wega, and I chose the Loewe set because I am not a big fan of Sony. About two weeks ago my beautiful TV fizzled and I had to make a decision. Get a nice new shiny LCD or Plasma or have the old set repaired at R3000 for a new LOPT and associated components.
So I did a bunch of research and went looking. The new LCD sets looked great, but they were all playing HD content in the shops, but the moment the content switched to SD, there simply wasn't a comparison, the old Loewe just did a much better job on colour, clarity and contrast. LCD was out of the question as 99% of my viewing pleasure is still SD.
The Plasmas were better IMHO (possibly because most of them only have to upscale to HD Ready), but they only come in 40 and 50 inch in ZA which was a beyond my price range. I was a little annoyed at the lack of choice with regard to Plasma in ZA, it is almost as if the major manufacturers have decided on our behalf that LCD is the way to go.
I fell in love with the Panasonic 40 or 42 inch plasma, it is truly a beautiful piece of kit, but it was way beyond my budget at R14000.
The new LED LCDs look great too, but I couldn't get to see one playing SD and also well beyond my budget, so not an option anyway.
I was bemused and confused, and didn't really know what to do, then I found this thread and did some more research and found this article: http://forum.ecoustics.com/bbs/messages/34579/122868.html which compares DVI vs HDMI vs Component Video.
I promptly had my old Loewe repaired and am very happy that I did, why, because the connection is not very important unless you have specific length requirements, what IS important is the electronics in the device that transmits the signal and the device that consumes the signal.
HDBaseT for AV looks great, I think it is a good idea, it stretches longer, there are no royalty fees involved like HDMI, and has been a standard in the IT industry for a long time, but at the end of the day it is just another way of connecting two AV devices together. In theory it should be cheaper than HDMI for you and me, but it will not necessarily define the quality of image on the screen at the end of the chain.
Also, HDMI looks to me like more like a mechanism to enforce DRM (which has prodigiously failed), with the added bonus of royalty fees for the inventor than a real attempt at improving signals between two AV devices.
Of course, HDBaseT could well fall within that category too and you can bet your bottom dollar that that is why the big players are looking into this standard (Sony again). It has little to do with how it might improve your viewing experience, but has a lot to do with improving their bottom line and an attempt to enforce DRM on behalf of the content providers (Sony again).:wtf: