Hermanus riots

Zwelihle protesters attack and rob police officer of service pistol

Protesters in Zwelihle, Hermanus robbed a police officer of his service pistol while Western Cape Premier Helen Zille attempted to address the community on Friday.

Community members were unwilling to listen to Zille and opted to use stones to pelt her and City of Cape Town mayoral committee members in attendance.
"It was during this time that the officer was robbed of his service pistol," police spokesperson Colonel Luthando Nosilela told News24.

"The group broke up into two groups and one group started chasing our members. They managed to get one [police officer] and rob him. He is currently in the hospital [and has] head and rib injuries."

Zwelihle Renewal member Sicelo Gxamesi confirmed the incident.

"We have managed to get the gun from the people who took it and we are discussing how to return it safely," Gxamesi said.

More at: https://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/...rob-police-officer-of-service-pistol-20180713
 
So the terrorists chased the people with firearms?

Oh yes, I forgot about Marikana
 
Community members were unwilling to listen to Zille and opted to use stones to pelt her and City of Cape Town mayoral committee members in attendance.

and the 1/10 voices condemning it are drowned out by those enjoying that it happened .....
 
Ramaphosa the country is burning around your ears. Maybe open your eyes.
Bunch of useless twats.
 
Still some major schit going on, the people of Zwelihle are prisoners in their own homes now.

The Western Cape Premier Helen Zille and Acting Provincial Police Commissioner General Burger visited Hermanus on Sunday afternoon, 15 July 2018.

In a social media post, Premier Zille said: “Heard first hand accounts from residents of Zwelihle about the extent of the violence and intimidation they face.

Apart from public facilities (the destruction of the library and swimming pool complex) private houses have been burnt. People who went to work had their clothing and furniture removed from their houses and burnt in the street. And most gruesomely, some pets have suffered the same fate.

While the police have contained the situation, it is impossible to prevent random roaming groups of thugs from causing this mayhem. There are now threats to burn the clinic and the school.

All political parties and civil society stakeholders, from the churches to the business leaders, speak with one voice in condemning these dreadful acts of violence, which are rooted in internal political contestation within Zwelihle.

Thugs are now moving from house to house extorting money for legal fees from residents. Sadly the trauma seems set to continue tomorrow. It always amazes me how much mayhem a small band of thugs can wreak on a community.

There is so much trauma, I am shaken to the core. Let's hope sanity prevails, ” she beseeched.

According to a statement by the convener of stakeholders, Masizole Mnqasela MPP, the following resolutions have been decided on at the Zwelihle Stakeholders meeting:

1. That the Army be deployed in Zwelihle with immediate effect.

2. That the Law and Order be restored in Zwelihle right now, and outstanding arrests be effected on those who continue to break the law, and inflicting pain and harm to society.

3. That, a conducive environment be created for those with specific information which can lead to positive identification of suspects, and successful prosecution without fear of intimidation.
4. None of the charges should be dropped against perpetrators of crime. Those who commit crime but remain subjects of the criminal justice system.
 
Not sure why the army has to be deployed to do what the cops are supposed to do.
 
So all the kark, plus now threats to burn a clinic and a school and reports of animal cruelty - some savage swine and a cat apparently - and still the 'law' does farkall ....... but it's not a sh*thole right.
 
cop = local person, easy to intimidate

army = some poor sod from somewhere from the country, not easy to intimidate?

So why have cops then? Surely the army should handle law enforcement inside the country?
 
Not sure why the army has to be deployed to do what the cops are supposed to do.

Logistics. These policemen have to come from somewhere and at the moment there have been 220 policemen from all over the province deployed at various stages. It cannot continue unabated, and the violence is increasing as time goes on.
 
So all the kark, plus now threats to burn a clinic and a school and reports of animal cruelty - some savage swine and a cat apparently - and still the 'law' does farkall ....... but it's not a sh*thole right.
:cry:

In the picture, a masked man, wearing light brown pants and a hoodie, can be seen swinging a cat tied with a red cord.

Next to him, there appears to be debris that's been set alight. There's no telling if the cat was dead or alive when the picture was taken.
http://ewn.co.za/2018/07/15/nspca-probing-alleged-animal-cruelty-incident-during-hermanus-protests

Cruelty like this brings out the genocidal part of me. :mad:
 
Logistics. These policemen have to come from somewhere and at the moment there have been 220 policemen from all over the province deployed at various stages. It cannot continue unabated, and the violence is increasing as time goes on.

But the army also have to come from somewhere?
 
When the army was brought in to stop the xenophobic violence, it stopped almost immediately.

I say bring them in.

What did the army do different to what the cops did? How can the solution be that that one organ has to do another organ's job? That just perpetuates the idea that the cops are useless and that the moment the army leaves, lawlessness can continue.
 
But the army also have to come from somewhere?

There's no wars going on at the moment that I am aware of.

Actually, I don't even know what to type to answer you. Your lack of understanding of the difference between their roles is so lacking, that I'd need to go back to basic fundamentals of the role of the police and army to explain. Sorry, I'm not trying to be rude, go and google the differences if you don't understand.
 
There's no wars going on at the moment that I am aware of.

Actually, I don't even know what to type to answer you. Your lack of understanding of the difference between their roles is so lacking, that I'd need to go back to basic fundamentals of the role of the police and army to explain. Sorry, I'm not trying to be rude, go and google the differences if you don't understand.

Seems like you need to educate yourself on the role differences between army and police. And the fact that you "don't even know of any wars going on" speaks to your ineptitude at the subject matter.
 
What did the army do different to what the cops did? How can the solution be that that one organ has to do another organ's job? That just perpetuates the idea that the cops are useless and that the moment the army leaves, lawlessness can continue.

There are full scale riots going on. Being useless has nothing to do with anything, it's about training and other civil matters which don't stop becasue one section of the town want to tie up all the resources for miles around. Lot's of countries have specialist police units trained in this kind of thing which they can call on. Others call in the army. Like SA when needed.
 
Seems like you need to educate yourself on the role differences between army and police. And the fact that you "don't even know of any wars going on" speaks to your ineptitude at the subject matter.

You can correct me, I'm not trying to be funny. Where are South African troops deployed at the moment?
 
There are full scale riots going on. Being useless has nothing to do with anything, it's about training and other civil matters which don't stop becasue one section of the town want to tie up all the resources for miles around. Lot's of countries have specialist police units trained in this kind of thing which they can call on. Others call in the army. Like SA when needed.

Showing you lack of knowledge once again. SAPS have a specialist police unit to deal with this. Here, I googled for you.

https://businesstech.co.za/news/government/232439/saps-reveals-new-public-order-policing-units/

As part of efforts to stamp the authority of the state, the South African Police Services has unveiled the national Public Order Policing (POP) reserve units.

The launch saw the units being capacitated with human and physical resources to enable the police to mitigate situations in respect of crowd management and violent community protests in the country as well as the SADC region.

“Strengthening the existing POP units will ensure democratic policing under the Bill of Rights which guarantees that everyone has the right to peacefully and unarmed assemble, demonstrate, picket and present petitions,” National Police Commissioner General Khehla Sitole said.

At present, 41 POP units consist of four reserve units and 37 provincial units exist.

“The full implementation of the POP enhancement and capacitation process will result in four established national reserve units and 50 provincial units, with a staff compliment of approximately 11 000 members,” Sitole said on Friday.

The POP has footprints in four provinces namely – KwaZulu-Natal, Mpumalanga, Gauteng, and Western Cape.

This will enhance the reaction time of the police to hotspots since the units will be closer and more accessible to the community as the first responder to potential crowd management situations.

The introduction of these reserve units, according to General Sitole, is in line with the findings of the work-study and the findings of the Farlam Commission of Inquiry.

“The launching of the national POP reserve units today is an indication of the great strides we have made and the many challenges that we have overcome to become an organisation and a nation with one of the best crowd management and public order policing components in the world,” he said.

The new units have been capacitated with the state-of-the-art equipment such as new generation Nyalas, water cannons, vehicles, video cameras and protective gear, to name but a few. The equipment was procured to enable officers to effectively perform their duties.

The officers deployed to the units will undergo a vigorous training process, which includes crowd management.

Speaking at the unveiling of the new units, Police Minister Bheki Cele urged the officers in the units to respond to community protests within the spirit and context of a community orientated policing model and the Bill of Rights.

He also urged them not to allow themselves to be used in political fractions but rather serve all communities equally. The Minister said they must always remember they are not called to respond to criminals but to communities who have rights.

“This unit is at the coal face of the communities … and you interact with the communities, remember to respect and uphold the Constitution, inspire confidence,” Minister Cele said.

Attendees at the launch were also treated to a demonstration involving POP, Airwing, Metro Police and the South African National Defence Force – showcasing an integrated approach to crowd management during a protest.

Police showed their capabilities by using water tanks, stun grenades and rubber bullets to disperse the make-believe protesters.
 
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