HEVC and H.265 encoding!!

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h.265 probably deserves its very own thread so here it is. I'm amazed this forum isn't a buzz with h.265 related articles and discussions...

I've never seen anything like it.

Below is a screenshot taken from Jurrassic World. The images appear identical but one is taken from a file 12.3gb big, the other, a mere 1.49gb!!!!

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I'm noticing HEVC 265 becoming more popular on torrent sites, I haven't seen anything encoded in VP9 yet though
 
I wish everyone would switch over, but I don't think the support is there yet, the same thing happened when going from Xvid to H264.
 
Soul Assassin said:
I wish everyone would switch over, but I don't think the support is there yet, the same thing happened when going from Xvid to H264.
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The biggest problem keeping it back is hardware support. Both in embedded and in current processors. The shift is taking place on that arena, albeit very slowly. In the case of embedded things, like cameras and phones I think we are still quite far away. At the moment it just takes waaay too long to encode, and decoding it on embedded devices like an rPi2 is probably not feasible.
 
P924 said:
The biggest problem keeping it back is hardware support. Both in embedded and in current processors. The shift is taking place on that arena, albeit very slowly. In the case of embedded things, like cameras and phones I think we are still quite far away. At the moment it just takes waaay too long to encode, and decoding it on embedded devices like an rPi2 is probably not feasible.
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+1 on hardware support. I know sykomantis has raised this point in a few threads already (specific to htpc/media players).

You can see from kodi's wiki page (http://kodi.wiki/view/Android_hardware) that there are many SoC that don't support it.

My htpc recently blew up and in replacing it, h265 compatible devices has definitely been a deciding factor in my options.
 
The problem with H.265 at the moment is lack of hardware decoding and software decoding isn't possible unless you're on a PC... Phones, tablets, media players and even some laptops just don't have the required CPU to software decode it.

Until hardware decoding is in the majority of devices(it's starting to come) H.265 is basically useless.
 
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I'm using a M73 Lenova thinkcentre as HTPC, 8gb ram, Intel HD4600 onboard GPU, 256gb SSD drive, i5-4430... works beautifully!!!
 
P924 said:
The biggest problem keeping it back is hardware support. Both in embedded and in current processors. The shift is taking place on that arena, albeit very slowly. In the case of embedded things, like cameras and phones I think we are still quite far away. At the moment it just takes waaay too long to encode, and decoding it on embedded devices like an rPi2 is probably not feasible.
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MrR said:
+1 on hardware support. I know sykomantis has raised this point in a few threads already (specific to htpc/media players).

You can see from kodi's wiki page (http://kodi.wiki/view/Android_hardware) that there are many SoC that don't support it.

My htpc recently blew up and in replacing it, h265 compatible devices has definitely been a deciding factor in my options.
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ScottulusMaximus said:
The problem with H.265 at the moment is lack of hardware decoding and software decoding isn't possible unless you're on a PC... Phones, tablets, media players and even some laptops just don't have the required CPU to software decode it.

Until hardware decoding is in the majority of devices(it's starting to come) H.265 is basically useless.
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Guilty as charged :D
I very much like where H.265 is heading, but my own hardware is lagging badly :(
First chance I get, I'm jumping on the Skylake bandwagon.
A friend of mine also said his Note 4 could play one of the HEVC files I give him, without even breaking a sweat, so hardware may not be that far behind- I will just confirm this though.

Edit: Confirmed, and his Note 4 was in power saving mode at the time.
 
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My Samsung TV also does HEVC, that's why I can't wait for it to become more common.
 
h.265 hardware playback SoC's started coming out early 2013 from what I remember, eg Realtek, MTK etc. Pretty much all the cheap low end ARM devices distributed nowadays (that go into tv's, set top boxes, phone's, tablets etc) support it.

The industry has heavily moved into h.265, and its clear that its won this race.
 
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