Hibernating a PC

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All these years i never really cared about this as i usually put it to sleep mode,but recently i activated hibernation and i think its the right choice.Do most of you guys do this and is it a really a good thing to do.My laptop i usually do this but what about your desktop.:cool:
 
desktop i hibernate at night, media center hibernates at night, carpc hibernates everytime i switch the car off.

so i guess i am a hibernation fan

cue 300 people telling me windows needs a reboot every now and again to keep it healthy.

s3 is also very handy to use, but can be a bit more quirky and picky when going in and coming out...hibernation is a bit more robust.
 
Yeah is cool if it works right. Vista has a hybrid hibernation thing which is also cool.
 
desktop i hibernate at night, media center hibernates at night, carpc hibernates everytime i switch the car off.

so i guess i am a hibernation fan

cue 300 people telling me windows needs a reboot every now and again to keep it healthy.

s3 is also very handy to use, but can be a bit more quirky and picky when going in and coming out...hibernation is a bit more robust.

You have a pc in your car? :D :eek:
 
I hibernate my media pc, lets me 'boot' directly into the media player quickly. I tried suspend/sleep, but it only works once and then hangs the system.
 
This depends on the amount of space you have available on your primary HDD. The more memory you have installed, the more space you need on you primary HDD. If you have 8GB of memoy installed, then you will need 8GB on you HDD to be able to hibernate.

I don't restart or switch off my work laptop, I close it when I go home at night and open it again the next morning. This helps because I don't have to wait for the freakin thing to boot. I on'y restart it if it freezes when I plug in my power cord - which happens regularly! Dell has got a known issue with this, and its irretating to say the least!
 
My personal laptop doesn't want to know anything about sleep or hibernation. I have tried everything except re-installing windows, it just doesn't want to sleep/hibernate.
 
I hibernate all my PC's and laptops. They do get restarted about once a week to once a month.
 
I never hibernate or switch off my PCs. All systems other than laptop run 24x7, even when I go away for a month.
This is mainly for reliability.
PCs last years longer this way.
 
I never hibernate or switch off my PCs. All systems other than laptop run 24x7, even when I go away for a month.
This is mainly for reliability.
PCs last years longer this way.

How does that contribute to reliability? Is leaving your PC on actually a good thing as apposed to switching it off every time you done with it?

This is actually something I have been wondering for some time...I always switch mine off in hopes of maximizing it’s life span.
 
How does that contribute to reliability? Is leaving your PC on actually a good thing as apposed to switching it off every time you done with it?

This is actually something I have been wondering for some time...I always switch mine off in hopes of maximizing it’s life span.

Thermal stress vs wear out...

After your PC has been off for many hours the components will be at room temperature. When the PC is turned on, the components will heat up, causing them to expand. This cycle of heating and cooling causes thermal stress in the components could [eventually] cause component failure.

Leaving the PC on all the time greatly reduces thermal stress, which can lead to increased life for the components, however, The opposite factor to thermal stress is wear out. While leaving your PC on reduces thermal stress and prolongs system life, it also causes components to wear out more quickly, especially fans.

Personally I think thermal stress is a greater risk for components than prolonged wear out, but it boils down to personal preference. I have a basic policy of turning my PC off if I feel that I will not be using it in the next 24 hours, and leaving it on if I use it more frequently...
 
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I've seen some forumites say that theoretically electronics should last for ever because there are no moving parts.

But that is not true.

At a microscropic level, electronics systems go through huge physical movements which can be very destructive!

What moves them? Not the electrons, which are of course quantum entities.

Countless studies - including a landmark one by US Dept of Defense - have shown that, direct external physical damage aside, about 80% of all electronics failures are caused by thermal issues.

In other words, Heat is The Great Enemy.

There is plenty of reference material on this topic, easily soopled. Even Miss Dewey can help. Or consult your fave search provider.

Perhaps the most common destroyer of electronics and especially electro-mechanical components (such as HDDs) is thermal cycling. This is the successive heat-expansions and cooling-contractions that a connection or component goes through whenever you power your system on and off, ie take it from cold to hot to cold. A typical PC has tens of thousands of micro-connections at board and component level, often between materials with different thermal and expansion coefficients. Passing current through the system causes each connection and each component to heat up and expand. When you power off, they cool down and contract, each material at its own rate. Successive thermal cycles slowly but inexorably strain the weaker connections, driving them closer to inevitable failure.

That's why almost all failures take place during the power-on or just after the power-off cycle (the system won't restart).

It's also why many devices have 'standby' modes ... such as your TV, for example. The main aim is to keep the circuits hot and reduce/stop thermal cycling. But hibernation or even standby mode on the PC stops current flow and allows the system to cool down.

This is especially true for devices like Hard Disk Drives. The MTBF figures published by manufacturers assume constant running at constant temps. Small example of just one item: every time your hard drive powers up the tiny bearings (not just of spinning disk spindle, but also of actuator r/w arm) take huge strain because they're not yet at the operating spec tolerances (which assume expansions to optimal operating temp). The lubricants are also designed to run optimally at normal operating temp, and are largely ineffective when a cold start is commenced. Zillions of micro connections and hundreds of solder joints and connections also take huge strain during these expansion and contraction cycles.

That's why, someday, something in your PC just stops working.

On my one server I have several hard drives that have run virtually non-stop for 8 years. The drives are far too small now, but when I replace the system next year I'll expect the same lifespan because I keep thermal cycling to an absolute minimum.
 
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PS. It might not be so easy to get this kind of info from some manufacturers. For years I was a product manager (incl at labs in Boca and Austin) at the world's largest computer company (which btw invented the winchester disk). I know this from the inside, from an engineering perspective. Which is why my erstwhile employer would advise its customers to keep their systems running 24x7.
 
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provided that there is never a bsod:D
Of course ite depends what you use your PCs for.
It's pretty hard keeping a power gaming machine running while you're carting it off to a LAN...

A very big part of caring for your system is ensuring you don't load crapware. In 18 years of running countless Windows machines I've only ever had maybe half a dozen BSODs. I can't remember how many PCs I have at home ... must be 9 or 10, perhaps more, though only 7 run all the time ... and I haven't seen a BSOD in years. Six of the seven systems are Vista Ultimate.

EDIT: Of course, running system round the clock raises other challenges, such as heat dumping into the room, and especially noise. That's why I got into liquid cooling 5 years ago ... CPUs, video & northbridge chipsets, and HDDs were getting frightfully hot in those days, and drastic action was required to cool and quieten things down.
 
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